Running is the drug ?

Sober Crappy Chemis

So, I’m in my fifties.
My old pals are obsessed with ‘running’. It’s their drug.

I’ve tried it. It’s no buzz... gimme beer instead.
And no I’m not overweight.





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Potential-Monke

I too don't understand getting addicted to physical activity of any kind, or this gym bug craic people be on about.

jimmycrackcorm

There's no incentive to running when you're in your fifties. Who is going to care?

Maybe in your sixties, when you have the mortgage paid off, kids have gone through college, you have a little spare cash and think about living it up a bit

ILoveYourVibes

Well pick a sport you love then. Walk even, its one of the best ways to exercise.

Its all about health. Lowering blood pressure ...keeping joints strong ...exercise your heart and blood vessels.

It reduces your risk of heart disease, blood clots, stroke, arthritis etc

Its not like anyone likes to be sick.

Lack of exercise is a cause of many chronic illnesses.

Plus it negates the effects of some bad habits like smoking and drinking. If you are a smoker and do exercise it negates some of the risks for developing certain diseases associated with smoking. Same with drinking.

Its about being healthy improving sleep and your mood etc.

tuxy

I get the feeling some people get runners high and euphoria from cardio while other just feel ill.
I love cardio but most of my mates don't.

ILoveYourVibes

tuxy wrote: »

I get the feeling some people get runners high and euphoria from cardio while other just feel ill.
I love cardio but most of my mates don't.

Im the same.

But there are other forms of exercise. You can get your heart rate up doing weighted exercises if you do them right.

I am trying to get better at strength training for bone density when i am older. I hate it though. But i have to do it I will regret it in years to come if i don't!

Potential-Monke

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I am trying to get better at strength training for bone density when i am older.

You just need to drink milk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygf0gRQsUb4

ILoveYourVibes

Potential-Monke wrote: »

You just need to drink milk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygf0gRQsUb4

Mmmm no unfortunately not.

Its not enough. Particularly as you age ...hormonal changes means women are less able to retain calcium because of less estrogen and other hormonal reasons.

Bone is constantly being broken down each day and your body is less efficient at building it back up if you have a poor diet and don't exercise.

This decreasing ability to retain calcium in the body happens at a later age for men but it DOES happen to men.

Men over 65 on average lose bone density at the same rate that women their age do. Its something a lot of men are not aware of.

Your body constantly breaks down ( through re absorption) old bone and builds new bone.

But at some point old bone will be broken down faster than new bone is built. Leading to lack of bone density.

Cells that break down bone are eosteoclasts cells that build it up are eosteoblasts. Eosteoblasts are the ones we want to stimulate .They are further stimulated by strength training but only strength training at the correct intensity. Also walking running etc. But not every bone is strengthened by running ..i mean the femur will be and your pelvis will be but maybe not the radius etc.

You have to maintain the balance of break down of bone and build up of bone as best you can as you age.

Also building muscles increases blood flow to these areas ...which delivers nutrients skeletal blood flow is very important in bone repair. And this is impaired with muscle wastage ...or lack of cardio to help your heart pump it around your body.

The balance of reabsorption won't favor the building of bone for women past menopause and men in the 60s without strength training or exercise at all.
Trust me.

Your bones need exertion put upon them to be stimulated to build bone. And your muscles need to be stimulated to be strong to strengthen the blood vessels to carry the nutrients to the bone etc ...same with the heart.

Strong heart ..strong muscles ..strong blood vessels ...strong bones.

Ardillaun

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Well pick a sport you love then.

Plus it negates the effects of some bad habits like smoking and drinking. If you are a smoker and do exercise it negates some of the risks for developing certain diseases associated with smoking. Same with drinking.

Its about being healthy improving sleep and your mood etc.

The other thing is it can work to reduce the scoops. If you know a run or a hike or getting off the sofa in any way is on for tomorrow, it tends to rein in a mad buck performance at the bar the night before.

ILoveYourVibes

Ardillaun wrote: »

The other thing is it can work to reduce the scoops. If you know a run or a hike or getting off the sofa in any way is on for tomorrow, it tends to rein in a mad buck performance at the bar the night before.

Shrug. I don't know that's not my jam. Never been a drinker.

Im not here to reduce people's scoops. :P People have to unwind.

But if it's a side effect so be it.

Also some people's constitutions are so strong they never miss a session nor a workout! Dunno how they do it! But they do!

tuxy

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Shrug. I don't know that's not my jam. Never been a drinker.

Im not here to reduce people's scoops. :P People have to unwind.

But if it's a side effect so be it.

Also some people's constitutions are so strong they never miss a session nor a workout! Dunno how they do it! But they do!

There's another side to it too. Running can be a great way to relax, run for 2 hours and you can feel great for the rest of the day.
But if you're used to doing that several times a week and you get injured or your commitments change then expect to be grumpy for sometime while your brain adjusts.

ILoveYourVibes

tuxy wrote: »

There's another side to it too. Running can be a great way to relax, run for 2 hours and you can feel great for the rest of the day.
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True.

But if you're used to doing that several times a week and you get injured or your commitments change then expect to be grumpy for sometime while your brain adjusts

I have never been injured thank god! Yeah life gets in the way though unfortunately sometimes !

tuxy

Oh and speaking of scoops. If you want to get hammered on 2 pints, run to exhaustion then try a few drinks

ILoveYourVibes

tuxy wrote: »

Oh and speaking of scoops. If you want to get hammered on 2 pints, run to exhaustion then try a few drinks

Yeah a couple of people have mentioned that.

Drinking is easier, keep doing that.

Wanderer78

Sober Crappy Chemis wrote:

I’ve tried it. It’s no buzz... gimme beer instead. And no I’m not overweight.

Coke is the new beer, it might be worth a try

Strumms

If it’s running probably six times out of ten in this country you’ll look out your front door and just think, ‘fûck no, way to windy/wet/dark/cold’... the beauty of the gym is that it’s not weather depending, all the equipment that will improve your fitness is under one roof. You don’t worry about making space for it, keeping it clean, buying it, weather.. you just pay your membership, turn up and work out... treadmill, elliptical, rowing machine, weights, leg press... whatever..

fizzypish

Much prefer lifting weights personally. Compound movements. Not into the bodybuilding stuff. Just want to dead lift heavy stuff. I imagine what I get from it is similar to a runners high.

Sober Crappy Chemis

Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »

I’ve tried it. It’s no buzz... gimme beer instead. And no I’m not overweight.

You should look up the "Hash house harriers" in dublin

Its an international running club and their motto is one I love:

"We are a drinking club with a running problem"

Never ran with them - but I respect their philosophy

I do love to run myself though. There is a euphoric feeling I get somewhere in the latter half of a 10k run every couple of days. It only lasts a few minutes. But it is better than any drug high I ever had.

beggars_bush

2 sessions a week in the gym is enough for me.
In and gone in 60 minutes.

Deadlifts, squats, shoulder press and some core work with an assault bike or ski cable machine to finish off

As you get older less impact is better

i more favour lifting and xtrainer, but there's nothing like being on a nice run at night listening to music. love it. usually high as a kite after

Bobblehats

beggars_bush wrote: »

with an assault bike or ski cable machine to finish off

To finish off is right them assault bikes are intense.

anewme

OP, you are a perfect fit for a MAMIL.

Greyfox

Deleted User wrote: »

There is a euphoric feeling I get somewhere in the latter half of a 10k run every couple of days. It only lasts a few minutes. But it is better than any drug high I ever had.

Many times I've been near the start of my jog and thinking I'm not able for this today but your right there's always a buzz near or at the end. When it comes to getting into shape this buzz that you didn't think could exist changes everything. It's this buzz that gives me the motivation to keep to my mostly healthy diet. If you don't get it from jogging you should be able to get it from some other exercise

yosser hughes

Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »

So, I’m in my fifties.
My old pals are obsessed with ‘running’. It’s their drug.

I’ve tried it. It’s no buzz... gimme beer instead.
And no I’m not overweight.





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I don't understand any of the bit in bold. Can someone enlighten me?

Apart from that, I do get a bit of a buzz from running, but I'm far too inconsistent in getting ou there. I always enjoy it when I'm finished.

olestoepoke

I was an avid runner. Completed several marathons and half marathons. Member of a running club, the whole shebang. Creeping up on 50 now and I am feeling the effects of it on my knees and hips. Don't run as much anymore. Take the dog for long brisk walks. I heard that a good brisk walk is just as beneficial as running without the damage. Is this accurate?
Regarding the buzz or runners high. Running definitely makes you feel better afterwards. Coming up to marathons I ran 18 miles without stopping once a week. This was tough and I never felt any high during the session only pain. For me, when I got home stretched out cooled down and had a shower made a cup of tea and lunch sat down to watch the premier league. This was the best I've ever felt, the hour after the long run. Is that what they mean by runners high?

JohnnyFlash

yosser hughes wrote: »

I don't understand any of the bit in bold. Can someone enlighten me?

Apart from that, I do get a bit of a buzz from running, but I'm far too inconsistent in getting ou there. I always enjoy it when I'm finished.

I’d say the dude is probably a ‘crazy diamond’ at the best of times, and was also as drunk as a minibus of Scots men when he posted. Rarely a good combination.

Running is a tremendous waste of time. It’s far slower than driving to where you want to get to. There’s also something off about the personalities of passionate runners. Nearly all absolutely humourless as well.

Zebra3

Strumms wrote: »

If it’s running probably six times out of ten in this country you’ll look out your front door and just think, ‘fûck no, way to windy/wet/dark/cold’... the beauty of the gym is that it’s not weather depending, all the equipment that will improve your fitness is under one roof. You don’t worry about making space for it, keeping it clean, buying it, weather.. you just pay your membership, turn up and work out... treadmill, elliptical, rowing machine, weights, leg press... whatever..

Nonsence.

It rains very little here compared to what people think and once you're out there you get warmed up.

monkeysnapper

I always wanted to get into running since school ... I was the tubby kid that was always last or second to last in cross country , ...last to be picked in line for football... I suppose you could call me one of the class losers....

Then one day I had bloodied my knee, just a scrape and I went to PE teacher that I couldn't do cross country because I had hurt my knee,,, he just looked at it and gave me a lashing ,,, get your kit on and get ready ( just imagine Roy Keane was my teacher)

It was a real cold , miserable day and i was so angry i just thought feck this and went for it just to get back as quick as possible .......... I came 5th out of about 35... I just remember all the kids just looking at me with teacher pointing at me with disbelief....

I dont think I ever did it again but into my late 30s I thought let's get on this ,,, I started with 1.5km and it nearly killed me ,,, I couldn't walk straight for days ... then upped it to 2km ... same again,, the aching was unreal ...

Anyway I've done a half marathon and a few 10km races , and I try to get out 2 times a week at 6am before work ...

It's a great way of letting off steam ,, one thing I would say which helped me a lot ,,, the right trainers, the right socks, and t shirt ....

Half way through my 40s and i think I'll try for a triathlon next .... I'm not a great swimmer ,,, I'm a ok cyclist .... it's good to keep challenging yourself...

anewme

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

as drunk as a minibus of Scots men

Never heard that. Brilliant.

I'd run almost daily but never really got the runners high in the same way as I'd get a swimmers high though I find it enjoyable enough to have kept running with a broken toe and plantar fasciitis. I had to stop running recently as I'm quite prone to injury at the moment. I miss it more than I thought I would but it's still in the back place compared to swimming and yoga in terms of enjoyable exercise.

I still swim and practise yoga daily for the mental as well as physical benefits, and the nucleus accumbens definitely fires out the dopamine in appreciation. I would say I'm likely addicted to exercise.

Sober Crappy Chemis

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I’d say the dude is probably a ‘crazy diamond’ at the best of times, and was also as drunk as a minibus of Scots men when he posted. Rarely a good combination.

Approximately 100% of that is true.

wakka12

Never got the whole 'exercise high' thing, I do it solly to maintain my body shape and for the apparent long term health benefits. I feel better afterwards definitely, but it's not because of any chemical reaction in my brain but because its such a fukcing effort and Im proud of myself for getting through a grueling workout

Wanderer78

wakka12 wrote:

Never got the whole 'exercise high' thing, I do it solly to maintain my body shape and for the apparent long term health benefits. I feel better afterwards definitely, but it's not because of any chemical reaction in my brain but because its such a fukcing effort and Im proud of myself for getting through a grueling workout

I wonder where do the feelings of pride come from, what part of your body?

wakka12

Wanderer78 wrote: »

I wonder where do the feelings of pride come from, what part of your body?

Yeh but it's a voluntary and deliberate 'feeling', as opposed to the involuntary endorphin release many people claim to have. If there were not well publicised health benefits that I was aware from exercising then I would get absolutely no joy from exercising afterward, its not the act that makes me happy but the consequences of it

Montage of Feck

Brian Ferry said love is the drug.

Bobblehats

Montage of Feck wrote: »

Brian Ferry said love is the drug.

Creatine’s the drug i’m thinking of

Church on Tuesday

I run most days, it's addictive once you get into it and it's important not to push yourself too hard so as not to injure, there is not so much a high rather a sense of personal achievement.

Naos

Strumms wrote: »

If it’s running probably six times out of ten in this country you’ll look out your front door and just think, ‘fûck no, way to windy/wet/dark/cold’... the beauty of the gym is that it’s not weather depending, all the equipment that will improve your fitness is under one roof. You don’t worry about making space for it, keeping it clean, buying it, weather.. you just pay your membership, turn up and work out... treadmill, elliptical, rowing machine, weights, leg press... whatever..

That's why you just have to get it in your mind to go out no matter what.

If you can't face the whole run, just lace up your runners & commit to 500m. Once you're out you won't care.

Plus it's a nice feeling running in the rain.

Better Than Christ

I tried it and it didn't give me a high. So I went out and bought some heroin instead. Now there's a drug.

Thelonious Monk

I only started it in April due to this lockdown and the lethargy that was creeping in. I always said I wasn't the right shape for running and any time I did try it I just lashed into it way too much too soon. So I started walking for a minute then jogging 3 minutes etc etc until I built up my running periods and didn't walk at all.
I do 5k most mornings now and last Sat I did my first 10k. It's really nice especially at this time of year. I'm 39 and I'm not going very fast, but I seem to have gotten into a good groove with it at the moment. I also have a pull up bar for a door frame that you can also do push ups with. It's funny because I haven't been in this good shape in years and I used to go to the gym all the time, I think 6kg gone in the last 5 weeks, which isn't far off a stone, so I'm pretty lean now. Diet has a lot to do with it mind.

Feisar

fizzypish wrote: »

Much prefer lifting weights personally. Compound movements. Not into the bodybuilding stuff. Just want to dead lift heavy stuff. I imagine what I get from it is similar to a runners high.

There is something primal IMO about deadlifting. Why run when you can crush!