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Driveway Modification

  • 01-02-2020 10:59pm
    #1
    fx83wab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 ✭


    I have an existing driveway. Looking to widen the entrance (knocking a bit of the wall, and moving the pillar). Not looking to widen the dishing. Does this need planning permission?


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  • #2
    t8010789
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭t8010789


    fx83wab wrote: »
    I have an existing driveway. Looking to widen the entrance (knocking a bit of the wall, and moving the pillar). Not looking to widen the dishing. Does this need planning permission?

    I believe so


  • #3
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,747 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    fx83wab wrote: »
    Does this need planning permission?

    Yes.


  • #4
    Sparky85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Sparky85


    you are allowed to extend an existing driveway to the front or side of the house for parking of up to two cars without the need for planning permission, provided that it is incidental to the use of the house and are not extending the dishing


  • #5
    BryanF
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    Op Planning required


  • #6
    fx83wab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 ✭fx83wab


    Thanks All. 3 against 1 at the moment.


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  • #7
    chooseusername
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭chooseusername


    fx83wab wrote: »
    Thanks All. 3 against 1 at the moment.
    Not something that should be decided on a poll on an internet forum.
    Having said that 2 of the 3 advising that you need planning
    are mods and have a lot of respect and experience on here.


  • #8
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,586 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    fx83wab wrote: »
    I have an existing driveway. Looking to widen the entrance (knocking a bit of the wall, and moving the pillar). Not looking to widen the dishing. Does this need planning permission?

    Planning required.
    Any alteration to a vehicular entrance requires planning.

    *not sure where the poster up there is getting their info that it’s exempt. Maybe they can share.


  • #9
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,747 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    kceire wrote: »
    *not sure where the poster up there is getting their info that it’s exempt. Maybe they can share.

    I can only assume they are referring to the driveway itself, with the boundary/garden, as opposed to altering/extending/widening the vehicular entrance?


  • #10
    Bracken81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭Bracken81


    100% Planning Application required to extend any driveway entrance to a house


  • #11
    Alkers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,915 ✭✭✭Alkers


    Sparky85 wrote: »
    you are allowed to extend an existing driveway to the front or side of the house for parking of up to two cars without the need for planning permission, provided that it is incidental to the use of the house and are not extending the dishing

    As far as I'm aware, this refers to the construction of the actual paved area of the driveway as opposed to the vehicular entrance, which you need planning if you want to widen.


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  • #12
    TheW1zard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    Max width of 3.5m. Going through the process currently.

    If I didnt need the dropped kerb afterwards i would have cracked on without it tbh


  • #13
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,586 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    TheW1zard wrote: »
    Max width of 3.5m. Going through the process currently.

    If I didnt need the dropped kerb afterwards i would have cracked on without it tbh

    Depends on the council. Dublin is 3.6m.


  • #14
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,586 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Alkers wrote: »
    As far as I'm aware, this refers to the construction of the actual paved area of the driveway as opposed to the vehicular entrance, which you need planning if you want to widen.

    It’s also limited to 50% of the surface area to the front of the building line.


  • #15
    TheW1zard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    kceire wrote: »
    Depends on the council. Dublin is 3.6m.

    The regulation for dublin city and Dlr is 3.5m.


  • #16
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,586 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    TheW1zard wrote: »
    The regulation for dublin city and Dlr is 3.5m.

    That’s incorrect.
    Check their development plan.

    I’ve gotten permission for more than 10 in the last 12 months ;)


  • #17
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,586 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Just to back up my claim, this is the document that planners use to determine planning applications for vehicular entrances.
    Where driveways are provided, they shall be at least 2.5 m or, at most, 3.6 m in width, and shall not have outward opening gates.

    Section 5 deals with roads standards.

    https://www.dublincity.ie/sites/default/files/content/Planning/DublinCityDevelopmentPlan/Documents/Dublin%20City%20Development%20Plan%202016%20-%202022%20Volume%202.pdf


  • #18
    TheW1zard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    kceire wrote: »
    Just to back up my claim, this is the document that planners use to determine planning applications for vehicular entrances.



    Section 5 deals with roads standards.

    https://www.dublincity.ie/sites/default/files/content/Planning/DublinCityDevelopmentPlan/Documents/Dublin%20City%20Development%20Plan%202016%20-%202022%20Volume%202.pdf

    DLR is 3.5m OP.

    https://www.dlrcoco.ie/sites/default/files/atoms/files/cdp2016_section8.pdf


  • #19
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,465 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Looking at doing something similar...how are you planning on moving the gate pier/pillar?

    Mine is all concrete so I guess I could demo and then rebuild in the correct location, would leave me with a lot of concrete and would require shuttering and rebar I guess. (its about 1.5M tall and .5m across)

    /edit
    Actually I dont think mine is solid concrete, I remove the gates and gate hangers and the middle of the pillar was odds and ends of stone, though it seems like the outside is more than just render.


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