“Don’t ruin your kids”: Drag Queen speaks out against Drag Story Hour in viral vid

Big Gerry

Interesting that now even drag queens are speaking out against other drag queens teaching children.

Personally I think we should let kids be kids.

Drag queen Kitty Demure has released a viral message to parents about the dangers posed to children by events such as Drag Queen Story Hour.
In it, she chides parents who take their children to see drag queens, saying “I have absolutely no idea why you would want [drag queens] to influence your child. Would you want a stripper or porn star to influence your child?”

https://gript.ie/watch-dont-ruin-kids-drag-queen-speaks-out-against-drag-story-hour-viral-video/

KiKi III

What’s with people not getting that these threads don’t go in AH any more?

Trigger Happy

Gript.ie is such a well balanced news site.

biko

I don't have a problem with children meeting cross-dressers etc, it's not going to harm them.

Big Gerry

biko wrote: »

I don't have a problem with children meeting cross-dressers etc, it's not going to harm them.

Thats not always the case.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6817409/Library-admits-let-convicted-sex-offender-read-children-young-two.html

biko

Then the problem is they invited a sex offender
Not that they invited a drag queen


Not all drag queens are sex offenders
Not all sex offenders are drag queens

razorblunt

Panto is huge in this country and has been for a while. I don’t see any difference really.

skooterblue2

razorblunt wrote: »

Panto is huge in this country and has been for a while. I don’t see any difference really.

Panto is not pushing an agenda. Its just harmless fun put on at christmas for kids.

Drag Queens are only doing it self-affirm they are acceptable to mass society without being ridiculed for being "confused". Its not normal for a man to be dressed as a woman outside of a theatre. If you are going to make about the musicals at Yale, that is something totally different in a culture I dont understand the tradition.

skooterblue2

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Panto is not pushing an agenda.

Lol.

NSAman

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Panto is not pushing an agenda.

OHHHHHhhhhhhhh yes it is!!!!!

Bobblehats

Mr Burns_Had Done It... wrote: »

I really don't get this push to normalise drag queens for young children.

Oh I’m totally down with it.

Must catch up on some more ‘AJ & The Queen’ over on Netflix later on ..

Bobblehats

Mr Burns_Had Done It... wrote: »

Your girlfriend has a bigger penis than you, dosen't she?

She has a bigger clit

Gynoid

razorblunt wrote: »

Panto is huge in this country and has been for a while. I don’t see any difference really.

You obviously did not listen to what Kitty Demure quite sensibly says. He says
to the parents cheering as their toddlers lie and roll on top of men doing sexualised womanface in public libraries...
''What in the hell has a drag queen ever done to make you admire them so much...other than writhe around and do sexual things on stage?''
''I have no idea why you would want that to influence your child?''
''Would you want a stripper or a porn star to influence your child?''
''A drag queen performs in a night club for adults.... there is a lot of sexual stuff that goes on...backstage there's a lot of nudity, sex and drugs.''

Etc etc.

On Netflix, in AJ and the Queen recently, in Episode 2, a fat man doing sexualised performative womanface in a bra and knickers (ie a drag queen) refers to a snippy 10 year old child as a ''top'', ie the penetrative partner in sex.

Yeah, so I see a difference. A traditional Panto Dame is very different to a drag queen.

One eyed Jack

Bobblehats wrote: »

Oh I’m totally down with it.

Must catch up on some more ‘AJ & The Queen’ over on Netflix later on ..

It’s the funniest series I’ve watched in a long time tbh, camp as fcuk and no stereotype is safe

“I had a diabetic stroke at 28, right after I told my very Christian father I was a drag queen. Turns out he was fine with it, and I’m the one who had a stroke”

As for this whole idea of “drag storytime”? I don’t think drag is appropriate for children, but if their parents want that for their children, I’m not too bothered either.

Gynoid

Pherekydes

Gript wouldn't agree with any LGBT, unless those LGBT are anti-LGBT.

branie2

How ironic!

ILoveYourVibes

OP why on earth are you posting this?

I met my first drag queen aged 3 in Spain.

I had to be told that by my mother because I can't remember it.

ILoveYourVibes

Big Gerry wrote: »

Thats not always the case.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6817409/Library-admits-let-convicted-sex-offender-read-children-young-two.html

You are equating homosexuality with pedophilia. You are insinuating that homosexuals are inherently dangerous to children.

There is zero connection with pedophilia and homosexuality.

To promote views such as yours is homophobic.

Your op is homophobic. You are a homophobe.

The LGBT community would be horrified as anyone else about child abuse.

Your entire argument is based on the assumption that to be gay is to be inherently evil and sexually deviant. I find that disturbing.

Big Gerry

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

You are equating homosexuality with pedophilia. You are insinuating that homosexuals are inherently dangerous to children.

There is zero connection with pedophilia and homosexuality.

To promote views such as yours is homophobic.

Your op is homophobic. You are a homophobe.

The LGBT community would be horrified as anyone else about child abuse.

Your entire argument is based on the assumption that to be gay is to be inherently evil and sexually deviant. I find that disturbing.

Its not my argument I'm just commenting on what the drag queen said him self.


As for been "homophobic" when you have to call someone names it shows you have lost the debate.


If I'm "homophobic" then what is the drag queen for calling out other drag queens ?

Sheridan81

Did anyone hear the story of Wilson Gavin? He committed suicide after his protest against drag queen storytelling went viral in Australia and he was on the receiving end of an online vitriolic backlash. He was actually homosexual himself.

An article for anyone interested:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jan/16/family-of-young-liberal-wilson-gavin-pays-tribute-to-their-son-and-brother

The video in question:

One eyed Jack

Big Gerry wrote: »

Interesting that now even drag queens are speaking out against other drag queens teaching children.

Big Gerry wrote: »

Its not my argument I'm just commenting on what the drag queen said him self.
...

If I'm "homophobic" then what is the drag queen for calling out other drag queens ?

That particular drag queen isn’t calling out other drag queens though. They’re “calling out” (hate that phrase) mothers who want their children influenced by drag. They even say so themselves -

A friendly message to mothers who want their kids influenced by drag.

If you even watch the video, they’re still not calling out other drag queens, they’re making the point that drag often involves people performing in a way that is inappropriate for children and doing things that are inappropriate for children, and questioning why anyone would want to expose their children to that environment. They make the point themselves that a drag queen performs in a nightclub for adults.

It was the author of that article who used that video to make the association between what that drag performer was talking about, and “drag storytime”. They’re not talking about the same thing. The author of that article was banking on the idea that the reader would associate drag with child sexual abuse, and that’s exactly what you did when you posted that article about the child sexual abuser who used “drag storytime” to gain access to children.

There are plenty of other reasons why drag is inappropriate for children without needing to make any association between drag performance and child sexual abuse.

Yellow_Fern

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

You are equating homosexuality with pedophilia. You are insinuating that homosexuals are inherently dangerous to children.

There is zero connection with pedophilia and homosexuality.

To promote views such as yours is homophobic.

Your op is homophobic. You are a homophobe.

The LGBT community would be horrified as anyone else about child abuse.

Your entire argument is based on the assumption that to be gay is to be inherently evil and sexually deviant. I find that disturbing.

Serious freudian slip there. No one mentioned the gays. You are also in denial. Drag queens promote bizarre and unhealthy and sexualised messages to kids. They are also breaking down gender for kids. There is ample evidence we are socio cultural as much as we are biological. To strip out fundamental aspects of socio cultural lives to kids is risky.

Oranage2

Yellow_Fern wrote: »

Serious freudian slip there. No one mentioned the gays. You are also in denial. Drag queens promote bizarre and unhealthy and sexualised messages to kids. They are also breaking down gender for kids. There is ample evidence we are socio cultural as much as we are biological. To strip out fundamental aspects of socio cultural lives to kids is risky.

I'd definitely wouldn't let my kids near a drag queen, it's a sexually perverted act that I've nothing against, these people can do it in appropriate places but no around children in my opinion.

wakka12

Big Gerry wrote: »

Thats not always the case.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6817409/Library-admits-let-convicted-sex-offender-read-children-young-two.html

The danger is that he's a sex offender. Not that he was in drag

wakka12

Big Gerry wrote: »

Its not my argument I'm just commenting on what the drag queen said him self.


As for been "homophobic" when you have to call someone names it shows you have lost the debate.


If I'm "homophobic" then what is the drag queen for calling out other drag queens ?

Why do you think that a drag queen's opinion counts more in this discussion? And gay people can indeed hold homophobic opinions.

branie2

What would Panti Bliss think?

rainbow kirby

The funniest part is that people actually believe what they read in a Gript (Youth Defence/Iona etc mouthpiece) article.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

KiKi III wrote: »

What’s with people not getting that these threads don’t go in AH any more?

Sure, it’ll get moved if the mods think it should be elsewhere. Can we not just discuss the topic in the meantime? And honestly, I’m not really that clear on what makes it not an AH topic really seeing as there are threads on current affairs active in AH right now.

rainbow kirby wrote: »

The funniest part is that people actually believe what they read in a Gript (Youth Defence/Iona etc mouthpiece) article.

If it’s the video I’m thinking of, I didn’t happen upon it via any news site. I saw it on Twitter and I was interested to hear their take.

skooterblue2

why do they have to do it in drag?

Raconteuse

Panto, Boy George in his Culture Club days - once there's nothing sexual, it's been children's entertainment for decades.

Desmond Is Amazing though (the young boy dressing in drag and performing in a night club) - that's fu*ked up, and deserves outcry. It's not the same as an adult drag queen simply entertaining kids though.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

You are equating homosexuality with pedophilia. You are insinuating that homosexuals are inherently dangerous to children.

There is zero connection with pedophilia and homosexuality.

To promote views such as yours is homophobic.

Your op is homophobic. You are a homophobe.

The LGBT community would be horrified as anyone else about child abuse.

Your entire argument is based on the assumption that to be gay is to be inherently evil and sexually deviant. I find that disturbing.

You are right that paedophilia knows no sexual orientation. There are paedophiles in straight populations as much as gay or transgender. With events being organised that involve children, I’d always rather be overcautious though especially if it’s something novel, which drag queen story hours still pretty much are. People are a bit wary, understandably IMO, and they should be able to discuss it without being labelled transphobes. Many people just want to ensure that there is safeguarding in place like in any event organised for children and the fear is that in the rush to seem progressive and inclusive, proper safeguarding might not be observed. One thing known about paedophiles (whether gay or straight, transgender or not) is that some will use any tool available to get close to children and we must always be vigilant about that.

fonecrusher1

razorblunt wrote: »

Panto is huge in this country and has been for a while.

No its not. Maybe in the pale.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

No its not. Maybe in the pale.

Lots of children throughout the country go to the panto every Christmas. There are various ones put on around the country. Definitely not just a Dublin thing.

nthclare

This thread is going to drag on forever....

s7ryf3925pivug

Is drag sexual then? I thought it was just pageantry or some sh!t. I don't really understand it.

suicide_circus

why are drag queens the vehicle we want to use to tell kids its ok to be gay? drag queens are a very niche subculture of gay life, it seems an odd choice. they portray an exaggerated sexualised version of women and are hardly representative of the average gay person.

mondeo

I wouldn't leave my kids with a man who likes to go out in public dressed like a woman.... Sounds wrong to me. I don't give a sht if I appear discriminative or not seeing the world how it is "these days" or whatever....

If a baby sitter came to your house and it was a man in drag, what would you do ? Would you leave your kids with them ? Bet ya fckn wouldn't.... Don't pretend you would either.

s7ryf3925pivug

mondeo wrote: »

I wouldn't leave my kids with a man who likes to go out in public dressed like a woman.... Sounds wrong to me. I don't give a sht if I appear discriminative or not seeing the world how it is "these days" or whatever....

If a baby sitter came to your house and it was a man in drag, what would you do ? Would you leave your kids with them ? Bet ya fckn wouldn't.... Don't pretend you would either.

Only have used family members as baby sitters.
One family member is into drag and we wouldn't leave him in charge of our kid, but it's nothing to do with him being into drag. He's not a fiddler or going to exert some weird gender bending influence. He's just pretty irresponsible and not someone you'd have confidence in if there was an emergency.

Sheridan81

mondeo wrote: »

If a baby sitter came to your house and it was a man in drag, what would you do ? Would you leave your kids with them ? Bet ya fckn wouldn't.... Don't pretend you would either.

Depends on who it was; if it was Eddie Izzard or Brian Molko, I'd be thrilled. Shirley Temple Bar-I'd tell him to fcuk off back to Telly Bingo.

Who could have seen this coming!

https://twitter.com/MZHemingway/status/1372550074581057538?s=20