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Buying 07 Passat tdi comfort, what to look out for?

  • 26-01-2020 1:48pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭


    Going looking at an 07 Passat tdi comfort tomorrow. Is there anything in particular I should look out for ? The seller did say the timing belt is due , around how much are the kits for that model ?

    Also have my eye on a mondeo titanium but the test is out since feb 19 , how does that work would I have to test it twice to get the year ?

    Thanks In advance


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    To be blunt there should be no need to settle on those two options. A passat with the belt due and a mondeo with no test are as well off avoided unless really really cheap.

    The passat can give abs issues sometimes these are handy sort sometimes they aren't. Steering rack problems are common enough too.

    The 1.9tdi is pretty stout, the 2.0 tdi isn't bad either but the oil pump gear needs to be sorted or else they're a bit of a ticking timebomb.

    Cheap tax 08 ones aren't that dear now either so that'd be something to consider.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭rottie 11


    To be blunt there should be no need to settle on those two options. A passat with the belt due and a mondeo with no test are as well off avoided unless really really cheap.

    The passat can give abs issues sometimes these are handy sort sometimes they aren't. Steering rack problems are common enough too.

    The 1.9tdi is pretty stout, the 2.0 tdi isn't bad either but the oil pump gear needs to be sorted too or else they're a bit of a ticking timebomb.

    Cheap tax 08 ones aren't that dear now either so that'd be something to consider.

    I’m probably going to steer clear of the mondeo alright , too much hassle testing it twice. What would you consider being cheap for a 2007 Passat with test until May? It’s advertised for 850 but as long as it’s in good running order I’d be happy enough to pay maybe 750/8 and get the timing belt replaced. Depending how much it will cost of coarse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The electric parking brake also gives problems on Passats of that vintage, can either be the parking brake button itself or a sticking brake caliber. Watch out for certain versions of the 1.9 TDi too as they are known to throw a con rod through the engine block which will kill the engine. Lots of tired old ones out there for sale so it can be a mine field.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    rottie 11 wrote: »
    I’m probably going to steer clear of the mondeo alright , too much hassle testing it twice. What would you consider being cheap for a 2007 Passat with test until May? It’s advertised for 850 but as long as it’s in good running order I’d be happy enough to pay maybe 750/8 and get the timing belt replaced. Depending how much it will cost of coarse

    Belt shouldn't be that dear. 3-400 should do it.


    Bxe is the main 1.9tdi engine code to avoid.

    Bkc is one of the best ones.

    As bazz said above there are a lot of tired rough examples about


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭rottie 11


    bazz26 wrote: »
    The electric parking brake also gives problems on Passats of that vintage, can either be the parking brake button itself or a sticking brake caliber. Watch out for certain versions of the 1.9 TDi too as they are known to throw a con rod through the engine block which will kill the engine. Lots of tired old ones out there for sale so it can be a mine field.

    Thanks I’ll hopefully have a good mechanic with me so he’ll have a look at all these things. The mileage is high enough on it alright but the seller claims to have serviced it regularly


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭rottie 11


    Belt shouldn't be that dear. 3-400 should do it.


    Bxe is the main 1.9tdi engine code to avoid.

    Bkc is one of the best ones.

    As bazz said above there are a lot of tired rough examples about

    That’s not too bad of a price. I’m not sure what you mean about the engine code ? Is that when you plug in the computer ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Why would you buy an 07 needing a belt. I just don’t get why you would especially when 08s aren’t that much more money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭redlead


    bazz26 wrote: »
    The electric parking brake also gives problems on Passats of that vintage, can either be the parking brake button itself or a sticking brake caliber.

    Or both in my case. The button is a fiver on ebay though. I don't know a single person with that B6 passat that hasn't had a problem with the electric parking break. That being said it's otherwise been a great car for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭rottie 11


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Why would you buy an 07 needing a belt. I just don’t get why you would especially when 08s aren’t that much more money.

    Ideally I would rather get an 09/10 but most of the passats near me 08+ are minimum 2 grand , most are closer to 3.

    I just can’t afford that right now , I’m hoping to get this for 750 and do the belt in it. If it needs anything more than the belt then I’ll be leaving it behind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,618 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    redlead wrote: »
    Or both in my case. The button is a fiver on ebay though. I don't know a single person with that B6 passat that hasn't had a problem with the electric parking break. That being said it's otherwise been a great car for me.

    Parking break.. ha ha good one!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,618 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    colm_mcm wrote: »
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    It was a joke.. I forgot boards doesn’t do jokes on Sunday’s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭teediddlyeye


    The engine code will be on a label on the timing belt cover, sticker in the spare wheel well or the sticker on the front page of the service book. As above bxe is the one to avoid, bkc and bls are much better but an 07 1.9 is likely a bxe.

    Watch out for excessively noisey/slow rear calipers when releasing the parking brake. Make sure the button works first touch without forcing it.

    Also make sure the ignition comes on and steering unlocks on first putting the key in the slot. Steering column locks are iffy on them and can be expensive.

    Check for excessive wear on the inside of the rear tyres, they eat them. Will need alignment if that's the case.

    Check rear pads, they are very hard on the inside pads, they can look ok from the outside but they can wreck the disks on the inside if left.

    Another thing is check for flywheel noises make sure it sounds the same when clutch is pressed/released and check for a shudder when moving off.

    Can't think of anything else off the top of my head. Just the usual crap looking at a car that age!

    "I never thought I was normal, never tried to be normal."- Charlie Manson



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    If you can find a nice 2008 mk1 1.9tdi 115bhp skoda superb it'd be a better buy imo OP.

    They're reliable, comfy and tax is only 390 for the year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    Timing belt including water pump is almost €450 plus the difference in Motor tax on a newer one..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭rottie 11


    Ended up buying it anyway, got it for 600. Driving well and electric brake is perfect. The mechanic that looked at it reckons it’ll need a gearbox mount also.

    I only just noticed aswel that the temperature doesn’t heat up to 90, it’ll only go as far as 70 and will drop off lower and go back up. Thermostat as far as I know ? I’m happy with the car overall it has beige half leathers and nice wheels.

    How many km should the timing belt be done and how many for water pump ? Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    The belt interval on them is 80k miles so around about 120-130k km.

    Personally I'd leave getting it done for a while and see how the rest of the car fairs. If it stays reliable for a few months then maybe look into getting the belt done.

    The 1.9tdi is an engine that wouldn't be known for premature timing belt failure so you should be safe enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭rottie 11


    The belt interval on them is 80k miles so around about 120-130k km.

    Personally I'd leave getting it done for a while and see how the rest of the car fairs. If it stays reliable for a few months then maybe look into getting the belt done.

    The 1.9tdi is an engine that wouldn't be known for premature timing belt failure so you should be safe enough.

    That’s a good point alright. It’s getting serviced tomorrow anyway I’ll look into doing the wp and tb in a few weeks.

    I put in 50 euro diesel at 1.33 a litre and got roughly 590 Kim’s with very little town driving l. Is that normal enough ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,618 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    rottie 11 wrote: »
    That’s a good point alright. It’s getting serviced tomorrow anyway I’ll look into doing the wp and tb in a few weeks.

    I put in 50 euro diesel at 1.33 a litre and got roughly 590 Kim’s with very little town driving l. Is that normal enough ?

    Mid 40's that's what I was getting from my 07 Octavia, lads will be shoiting on about 55 and 60 mpg but I never got anything better than the mid 40's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Mid 40's that's what I was getting from my 07 Octavia, lads will be shoiting on about 55 and 60 mpg but I never got anything better than the mid 40's

    For the 1.9tdi's I always found the 105bhp and 115bhp a touch thirstier than the older 100bhp

    The older 110bhp is the king of mpg out of the lot of them imo.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭rottie 11


    thanks just to try and figure out now how to do the calculations haha. I’d be happy enough with 45 mpg but something is telling me I’m not getting it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    rottie 11 wrote: »
    thanks just to try and figure out now how to do the calculations haha. I’d be happy enough with 45 mpg but something is telling me I’m not getting it

    Fill the tank. Run it till the light comes on. Refill and see how many litres it takes and then work out how many miles you covered in relation to litres burned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭rottie 11


    Thanks I’ll do that. Hopefully the service will improve it also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,618 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    For the 1.9tdi's I always found the 105bhp and 115bhp a touch thirstier than the older 100bhp

    The older 110bhp is the king of mpg out of the lot of them imo.

    Definitely, the 110 was an absolutely fantastic engine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭rottie 11


    I’ve a question lads might aswel use this thread. I’ve a few dents in some of my doors on the car , can get 3 replacement doors for 100 but the door cards are a different colour so my question is , is it a big job to change over doors first of all and door cards should be simple enough to change ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    rottie 11 wrote: »
    I’ve a question lads might aswel use this thread. I’ve a few dents in some of my doors on the car , can get 3 replacement doors for 100 but the door cards are a different colour so my question is , is it a big job to change over doors first of all and door cards should be simple enough to change ?
    The cards will have to come off to access the wiring for windows, mirrors, CL, speakers etc anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭rottie 11


    dodzy wrote: »
    The cards will have to come off to access the wiring for windows, mirrors, CL, speakers etc anyway.

    Oh perfect. I’m assuming all the wiring Is plugged ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Yep, don’t assume that it’ll be just plug and play though, sometimes you might need to swap window reg, or wiring loom in the door to match your car.

    Also don’t assume that the paint will be an exact match.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭rottie 11


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Yep, don’t assume that it’ll be just plug and play though, sometimes you might need to swap window reg, or wiring loom in the door to match your car.

    Also don’t assume that the paint will be an exact match.

    Is there a particular reason they’d have to be swapped over ? It’s black anyway same as the doors I’m buying. I’d their more than one shade of black Passat ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Chances are your car or the donor car has seen some paint since new, plus there would be variations in shade anyway.

    There may be differences in looms and plugs depending on build date or specification.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭rottie 11


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Chances are your car or the donor car has seen some paint since new, plus there would be variations in shade anyway.

    There may be differences in looms and plugs depending on build date or specification.

    Everything in my doors work luckily so can swap them over if needs be. The paint could be a problem alright , I’ll have to check paint codes and hope they match

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    How bad are the doors?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭rottie 11


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    How bad are the doors?

    The driver one is he worst it’s annoyingly me to look at. the other 2 aren’t that bad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    You could look at pointless paintless dent removal if the paint is ok and is just dents.

    Door swaps can be a pain sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭rottie 11


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    You could look at pointless paintless dent removal if the paint is ok and is just dents.

    Door swaps can be a pain sometimes.

    Nah the paint isn’t great either. I’m thinking of only doing the one door first and see how it goes


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