600 insurance

GMessam405

Anyone have experience with insuring a 600 as a newer rider? I'm thinking I'd like to get a moped or a 125 for a year or so, then move up to a 600 (yeah I know it's not the safe way but I'm not asking that, I'm American and this is how we do it)

zubair

How old are you? I don't see anything wrong with going for a 125 first, that's the sensible way. Probably a little too sensible if you are over 24 and old enough for a category A learner permit.

GMessam405

zubair wrote: »

How old are you? I don't see anything wrong with going for a 125 first, that's the sensible way. Probably a little too sensible if you are over 24 and old enough for a category A learner permit.

I'm 19. The problem is, being from America, our perception of 125s is as... Toys. Not quite a "real bike". And I'm not a "sensible" person. If I was still in America, I'd just go buy a hayabusa from the off. But that ain't possible, thanks to the laws here being... Restrictive, to put it politely.

airhead_eire

I'd say ring the insurance companies and get the facts first hand. Then you'll know for sure what options you have.

CorkCBR6

GMessam405 wrote: »

Anyone have experience with insuring a 600 as a newer rider? I'm thinking I'd like to get a moped or a 125 for a year or so, then move up to a 600 (yeah I know it's not the safe way but I'm not asking that, I'm American and this is how we do it)

I had a 125 (Honda CLR125) for all of four months before I went to a 600 (Bandit). 20 years old on the 125cc and 21 on the 600cc.

Insurance was only a tiny bit more from what I remember with Liberty for the change and it was no hassle at all.

Just my two cents.. 125cc to 600cc is a way bigger jump than when I went from 600cc to the 1100cc Blackbird or 1000cv GSXR. Any half modern 600cc is a completely different animal to a 125cc.

Enjoy!

CorkCBR6

GMessam405 wrote: »

I'm 19. The problem is, being from America, our perception of 125s is as... Toys. Not quite a "real bike". And I'm not a "sensible" person. If I was still in America, I'd just go buy a hayabusa from the off. But that ain't possible, thanks to the laws here being... Restrictive, to put it politely.

Ah man.. I can tell by your attitude this is not for you! Laws here are fantastic for motorbikes and anybody here over the age of 25 will tell you that. These laws kept us alive and keeps teenagers off superbikes when they can't even control their own pecker yet.

And if you think 125s aren't a "real bike" remind yourself that one of the greatest motorcycle racers of all time and TT legend died racing one when he was dominating the TT in 600cc and 1000cc bikes.

Have a long hard think before you become a statistic.

listermint

This lads a spoofer. Buying a camper in another thread looking for insurance quotes.

Hotblack Desiato

GMessam405 wrote: »

If I was still in America, I'd just go buy a hayabusa from the off. But that ain't possible, thanks to the laws here being... Restrictive, to put it politely.

Yeah, maybe that's part of the reason road death rates in the US are twice that of here...

Hotblack Desiato

listermint wrote: »

This lads a spoofer. Buying a camper in another thread looking for insurance quotes.

A year ago was asking about mounting a surfboard on a bike :rolleyes:

GMessam405

CorkCBR6 wrote: »

Ah man.. I can tell by your attitude this is not for you! Laws here are fantastic for motorbikes and anybody here over the age of 25 will tell you that. These laws kept us alive and keeps teenagers off superbikes when they can't even control their own pecker yet.

And if you think 125s aren't a "real bike" remind yourself that one of the greatest motorcycle racers of all time and TT legend died racing one when he was dominating the TT in 600cc and 1000cc bikes.

Have a long hard think before you become a statistic.

I am aware that 125s arent just toys, but it's hard to not think that way when I'm from where a 250 is the most sensible starter bike, and 400s are also knòw to bee good for starting. Thing is, I've never been one to let what's dangerous hold me back, even by American standards, so I want a 600. Ofc im not stupid, that's why I want to start on something smaller just to get the general feel of a bike, then move up. And yes, he may have died, but I'm not hoping to be a helmet less squid, and I'm definitely not riding at the speed that he was, even if I wanted to, I wouldt have the skill. Back home you have a few people who start on literbikes, and get on fine. So I figure, adjusting for the fact that drivers here dont care, the roads suck, and it's always wet, a 600cc may be the way forward. As long as I'm not an idiot 🀷ðŸ¾*♂️

GMessam405

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

A year ago was asking about mounting a surfboard on a bike :rolleyes:

More common than you think. In fact, if it wasnt so windy here, everyone who surfed would likely do it

GMessam405

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Yeah, maybe that's part of the reason road death rates in the US are twice that of here...

There are barely any bikes in America

GMessam405

listermint wrote: »

This lads a spoofer. Buying a camper in another thread looking for insurance quotes.

How tf would I know that it's so expensive, the insurance companies are like a cartel here. Yall been getting ripped off by them. 3 grand per year for 1.0 car that's just slightly too big to be considered a go cart? That's stupid. Not being allowed to modify your car in any way below 25? What kinda retards are running this ****? I just want a camper to cruise, what am I gonna do with it, pull a Tokyo drift through the streets of Dublin? **** sake, America has its multiple of problems, but it's so much better for petrol heads

GMessam405

CorkCBR6 wrote: »

I had a 125 (Honda CLR125) for all of four months before I went to a 600 (Bandit). 20 years old on the 125cc and 21 on the 600cc.

Insurance was only a tiny bit more from what I remember with Liberty for the change and it was no hassle at all.

Just my two cents.. 125cc to 600cc is a way bigger jump than when I went from 600cc to the 1100cc Blackbird or 1000cv GSXR. Any half modern 600cc is a completely different animal to a 125cc.

Enjoy!

Thanks!

listermint

GMessam405 wrote: »

There are barely any bikes in America

See.


Spoofer.

galwaytt

I should know better, and if OP did his homework he'd know too, but here goes anyway....if you're 19 you don't have to start on a 125. You can buy any number of great A2 bikes that would be just as cheap as any 125, and some are reasonable to insure.

zubair

As Galway pointed out, you can start on an A2 bike when you're over 18, that would be the way to go in my opinion.


https://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Learner-Drivers/Motorcyclists/Driving-Test-Vehicles---Motorcycles/

Hotblack Desiato

GMessam405 wrote: »

There are barely any bikes in America

LOL

8,663,737 motorcycles registered in the USA in 2017.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/191002/number-of-registered-motorcycles-in-the-us-by-state/

It's the largest motorcycle market in the world.

Hotblack Desiato

GMessam405 wrote: »

More common than you think. In fact, if it wasnt so windy here, everyone who surfed would likely do it

:pac: looks ideal for the beginner... where do you put your wetsuit? You do realise the water is cold here even in summer, right? A breezy ride home after the chilly waters will have you in hypothermic territory!

GMessam405

galwaytt wrote: »

I should know better, and if OP did his homework he'd know too, but here goes anyway....if you're 19 you don't have to start on a 125. You can buy any number of great A2 bikes that would be just as cheap as any 125, and some are reasonable to insure.

Thanks, was just wondering if it was crazy expensive to run an A2 bike

GMessam405

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

:pac: looks ideal for the beginner... where do you put your wetsuit? You do realise the water is cold here even in summer, right? A breezy ride home after the chilly waters will have you in hypothermic territory!

Of course I realise that, I've been surfing for two years up in the north. That's what saddle bags are for arent they 😋

GMessam405

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

LOL

8,663,737 motorcycles registered in the USA in 2017.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/191002/number-of-registered-motorcycles-in-the-us-by-state/

It's the largest motorcycle market in the world.

Bikes are considered "man toys" in America. They (most of the time) arent used as transportation, but as a hobby. For that reason those that own bikes tend to own at least 3. Normies dont ride bikes, in fact, theres generally a bad perception of bikers in America. So fine, maybe there are alot of bikes, but there arent very many bikers.

GMessam405

listermint wrote: »

See.


Spoofer.

I'm a spoofed and your an internet tough guy

PCeeeee

GMessam405 wrote: »

Bikes are considered "man toys" in America. They (most of the time) arent used as transportation, but as a hobby. For that reason those that own bikes tend to own at least 3. Normies dont ride bikes, in fact, theres generally a bad perception of bikers in America. So fine, maybe there are alot of bikes, but there arent very many bikers.

Yeah. At least 3. Maybe more. Go on outa that. 😂

zubair

GMessam405 wrote: »

Of course I realise that, I've been surfing for two years up in the north. That's what saddle bags are for arent they 😋

Insurance is probably cheaper on an A2. You should just call some insurance companies with a few bikes in mind and get some quotes. 125-1000, the running costs won't be vastly different, when you consider everything.