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Nct new rules

  • 16-01-2020 12:34am
    #1
    torrevieja
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭


    when did the Nct bring in Brake Pads worn and Discs scored is this a New Rule ?


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  • #2
    GM228
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    torrevieja wrote: »
    when did the Nct bring in Brake Pads worn and Discs scored is this a New Rule ?

    Current excessively worn discs and pads regulations came in in May 2018, however pads considered to be needing replacing (i.e excessively worn) and damaged discs has been in since day 1.


  • #3
    Turbohymac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭Turbohymac


    Jeepers as a mechanic myself it wouldn't be much of a test if the absolute main safety features weren't checked..the country would be awash with deathtraps.on the road..we might all complain if our vehicle fails nct.. but it clearly shows how little maintenance and proper servicing is going into cars these days...


  • #4
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    I feel like I'm one of the few people who thinks the NCT is good value. I know they don't cover everything but it is a reasonably extensive examination of the car.
    My recent test found that one of my shocks needed replacing. I'm happy that was found, I actually decided to replace two shocks because of it, my car is now safer.


  • #5
    Wibbs
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    Turbohymac wrote: »
    Jeepers as a mechanic myself it wouldn't be much of a test if the absolute main safety features weren't checked..the country would be awash with deathtraps.on the road..
    This. In a big way. I mean who the hell would complain about being informed their brakes being under par? Then again, the number of people I've seen moaning at the NCT centre when told about scarily dangerous issues with their car...
    we might all complain if our vehicle fails nct.. but it clearly shows how little maintenance and proper servicing is going into cars these days...
    My mechanic reckons at least some of that seems to be down to the NCT itself. That with some customers he only sees them after they fail their NCT and only want work carried out that will pass the car. Other preventative measures, even basic servicing being left on the long finger until the car fails again. Some of these people he knows for donkey's years and they used to bring their cars in more regularly, but now a service is seen in the context of NCT fail or not. Even so it's better we have it. Like I say having eavesdropped on a few fail conversations over the years I was surprised and shocked at the state of some people's cars out there and I'd only be in the NCT place for under an hour once a year.

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  • #6
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    I think some people consider it a stealth tax, which isn't the case.


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  • #7
    The QuietMan
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    tuxy wrote: »
    I think some people consider it a stealth tax, which isn't the case.

    I can partially see the reason why they say that. On the receipt it shows the cost of the test and the cost of the VAT. How much VAT do the government take in from tests/retests etc


  • #8
    Salary Negotiator
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    Over 90,000 vehicles tested last year were found to be dangerously defective and unroadworthy.

    There’s a sizeable number of people who probably only maintain their cars when the NCT forces them to.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/one-in-15-cars-taking-nct-unsafe-to-drive-on-public-roads-1.4139554?mode=amp


  • #9
    galwaytt
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    Salary Negotiator wrote: »
    Over 90,000 vehicles tested last year were found to be dangerously defective and unroadworthy.

    There’s a sizeable number of people who probably only maintain their cars when the NCT forces them to.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/one-in-15-cars-taking-nct-unsafe-to-drive-on-public-roads-1.4139554?mode=amp

    undeniably true, but the NCT fail numbers cannot factor in for the fact that most people use the NCT as the gauge to decide on what to fix (as distinct from maintain), so you're going to see more failures (of all kinds) anyway.

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  • #10
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    torrevieja wrote: »
    when did the Nct bring in Brake Pads worn and Discs scored is this a New Rule ?

    The cheek of them, imagine failing a car because the parts that stop it are excessively worn...ridiculous :rolleyes:


  • #11
    Salary Negotiator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Salary Negotiator


    galwaytt wrote: »
    undeniably true, but the NCT fail numbers cannot factor in for the fact that most people use the NCT as the gauge to decide on what to fix (as distinct from maintain), so you're going to see more failures (of all kinds) anyway.

    Agreed, but that 90k fails is just the dangerous ones. In total there were over 600k failure with the vast majority passing on the retest.


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  • #12
    Krombopulos Michael
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭Krombopulos Michael


    Wasn't there talk at one stage about upgrading the test to include checking for welded diff's?

    I know they are looking into updating the suspension tests over the next few years.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/nct-operator-told-to-trial-new-suspension-test-973764.html


  • #13
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Krombopulos Michael wrote: »
    Wasn't there talk at one stage about upgrading the test to include checking for welded diff's?

    I cant see them bothering, if it meant buying new equipment then it would be a complete waste of money/resources as the majority of cars with welded diffs are not tested nor have the owners any intention of testing them. And if they were stupid enough to bring a car with a welded diff to be tested, any tester worth their salt will discover it as soon as they drive the car in anything but a straight line and will refuse to test the car or fail it for having a modified differential.


  • #14
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »
    I cant see them bothering, if it meant buying new equipment then it would be a complete waste of money/resources as the majority of cars with welded diffs are not tested nor have the owners any intention of testing them. And if they were stupid enough to bring a car with a welded diff to be tested, any tester worth their salt will discover it as soon as they drive the car in anything but a straight line and will refuse to test the car or fail it for having a modified differential.

    I've never driven a car with a welded diff.
    Would it be really obvious when moving a car from the parking space to inside the test centre at 10 km/h?

    Can they fail a car on something that they don't test for?


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