TV Bracket - What's missing

Dr_Colossus

I'm going to buy two tv brackets to mount tvs to both a bedroom and sitting room wall. Likely this one:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003U46SWC/?coliid=I3QM3MVI2KL2RW&colid=2S06SR9M011M5&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

However I have this one to hand but can't figure out what's missing or what type of TV it's designed for, anyone come across similar previously?. It's a seriously strong design but the brackets that tilt are fixed at 750mm apart (normally they're on a slider bar to match the versa of your TV). Rather than dump it and buy a replacement I'd like to put it to use if possible.

mickdw

Are you sure those bars cannot slide to any required width?

Dr_Colossus

Yes, it's quite puzzling. There are two lugs 750mm apart onto which the brackets are fixed with an 8mm bolt (Pic 1). There's an option to mount the bracket higher or lower on the frame to give different tilt angles but again they're at a fixed distance apart. (Pic 2 and 3).

It doesn't look like there was any additional supports bolted across between the two tilting brackets which would be needlessly complicated and weaken the otherwise robust bracket.

I'm also not aware of any TV that has a 750mm versa.

LenWoods

Hi,
Can I ask why you're choosing to purchase that design of bracket again ?
I can understand attempting to salvage that one but not purchasing that design again,
The reason I ask is because it's design style is one of the first generation of wall fixings for televisions
There not the most flat to wall design and if your purchasing new televisions which are LED there much slimmer and lighter than the older generation LCD screen,
Prior to purchase you may also consider some alternatives which fit closer to the wall when fitted,
Such as these:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mounting-Dream-200x200mm-Articulating-MD2463-L-02-Black/dp/B01MG6UAHH/ref=sr_1_145?keywords=Tv+bracket&qid=1579048096&sr=8-145

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cantilever-13-37Inch-Capacity-MA2770-3260-ZC-Black/dp/B07SWJ9Y3S/ref=sr_1_130?keywords=Tv+bracket&qid=1579048028&sr=8-130

Also thought I'd add that I've recently fitted the three bedrooms of my house with television aswell as satellite box fitted in floating box's fitted flush with the ceiling saves space in the room and keeps all cables hidden,

Heres a link you may find of interest: https://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/80864-living-room-project/?do=findComment&comment=715076

I bought all televisions from LaptopsDirect.ie saved over €400 on all three compared to Harvey Norman's or currys for the exact same models,

LenWoods

LenWoods wrote: »

The reason I ask is because it's design style is one of the first generation of wall fixings for televisions
There not the most flat to wall design and if your purchasing new televisions which are LED there much slimmer and lighter than the older generation LCD screen,

What are you talking about?
the OPs one is the flattest to the wall fixing you can get.
The ones you liked to stick out miles

OP
I dont think those bolts go where you have them.
Are they for the tv (look too big) or where they part of the old install some how.

and your TVs are WAY too high,It'd be like sitting in the front row of the cinema.

J.R.

Dr_Colossus wrote: »

Yes, it's quite puzzling. There are two lugs 750mm apart onto which the brackets are fixed with an 8mm bolt (Pic 1). There's an option to mount the bracket higher or lower on the frame to give different tilt angles but again they're at a fixed distance apart. (Pic 2 and 3).

It doesn't look like there was any additional supports bolted across between the two tilting brackets which would be needlessly complicated and weaken the otherwise robust bracket.

I'm also not aware of any TV that has a 750mm versa.

Imagine your TV is lying flat with the screen on the ground on those tiles in the photo.

Lift up the bracket as it is & place it over the back of your TV.

Line up the holes on the bracket with holes on back of TV to centre the TV on bracket. Secure with bolts..(not in photo)

Now you remove the two hanging brackets and fit to the wall.

Liftt up your frame , secured to TV and place on these brackets.

Tighten your bolts on brackets from the side..behind the TV

LenWoods

BrownFinger wrote: »

What are you talking about?
the OPs one is the flattest to the wall fixing you can get.
The ones you liked to stick out miles

OP
I dont think those bolts go where you have them.
Are they for the tv (look too big) or where they part of the old install some how.

and your TVs are WAY too high,It'd be like sitting in the front row of the cinema.

The brackets I've linked have the option of folding out quite a bit;
However; when positioned tight to the wall they don't protrude as much as the alternative bracket due to there zig zag design, check the measurements information and compare which is what I have done myself to discover the fact. :rolleyes:

Dr_Colossus

LenWoods wrote: »

Hi,
Can I ask why you're choosing to purchase that design of bracket again ?
I can understand attempting to salvage that one but not purchasing that design again,
The reason I ask is because it's design style is one of the first generation of wall fixings for televisions
There not the most flat to wall design and if your purchasing new televisions which are LED there much slimmer and lighter than the older generation LCD screen,
Prior to purchase you may also consider some alternatives which fit closer to the wall when fitted,
Such as these:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mounting-Dream-200x200mm-Articulating-MD2463-L-02-Black/dp/B01MG6UAHH/ref=sr_1_145?keywords=Tv+bracket&qid=1579048096&sr=8-145

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cantilever-13-37Inch-Capacity-MA2770-3260-ZC-Black/dp/B07SWJ9Y3S/ref=sr_1_130?keywords=Tv+bracket&qid=1579048028&sr=8-130

Also thought I'd add that I've recently fitted the three bedrooms of my house with television aswell as satellite box fitted in floating box's fitted flush with the ceiling saves space in the room and keeps all cables hidden,

Heres a link you may find of interest: https://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/80864-living-room-project/?do=findComment&comment=715076

I bought all televisions from LaptopsDirect.ie saved over €400 on all three compared to Harvey Norman's or currys for the exact same models,

Thanks Lenny for questioning my purchase, haven't completed it yet so always good to re-assess. I’ve also read all 4 pages of your Living Room Project over the last few weeks, great detailed write up and the links and prices provided are very useful. Good ideas in there also which I may be able to adopt for my own set-up.

In my case the cantilever brackets are surplus to requirement and somewhat limiting in terms of size screen and weight capacity. For the sitting room I have a 55” OLED screen which is very thin so don’t want anyone pulling and adjusting it once fixed. Plan to mount this pretty much in the middle of the wall with a slight downward tilt. It also has ambilight so some distance from the wall may be preferred to emphasise the light being shone (still need to check on that).
For the bedroom I have an old 32” Samsung LED which is quite thick and heavy and plan to mount this pretty high up on the wall with a downward tilt towards the bed. Maybe in a couple of years I’ll upgrade it to something bigger and slimmer so good to have a versatile bracket that will accommodate.

The bracket I have originally linked covers pretty much all versa sizes for tv sizes between 32”-70” and has a pretty extreme load capacity of 75kg. It does however extend out 65mm from the wall which will likely be further emphasised when tilted.

I was and still am contemplating the below tilting bracket which only extrudes 34mm from the wall but somewhat disappointed that the wallplate is in two sections that are bolted together
https://www.amazon.co.uk/VonHaus-Tilting-Built-Spirit-Maximum/dp/B00N4X4QP0/ref=sr_1_10?crid=37HVWOSH5SS0U&keywords=vonhaus+tv+bracket&qid=1579091685&sprefix=vonhau%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-10
This looks to be a similar and only extrudes 25mm from the wall and despite the wallplate looking stronger it has a reduced weight capacity of 35kg which should still be more than adequate.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/VonHaus-Tilting-Built-Spirit-Maximum/dp/B004RB5QWA/ref=sr_1_10?crid=37HVWOSH5SS0U&keywords=vonhaus%2Btv%2Bbracket&qid=1579091685&sprefix=vonhau%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-10&th=1
There are flat mounted brackets that protrude even less but in my case I want some element of tilt and you need at least some space behind for cables and plugs. Decisions, decisions and if anything too much choice

Dr_Colossus

BrownFinger wrote: »

OP
I dont think those bolts go where you have them.
Are they for the tv (look too big) or where they part of the old install some how.

The existing bracket was positioned on a wall of a house I bought so not sure how the TV was fixed originally to it. The bolts are heavy duty 8mm so far too big for the versa mounts and only really fit where I have them, it has me perplexed and suspect there are additional fixings missing but I haven’t seen the likes of it elsewhere. There’s no markings or manufacturer name on the bracket to check either and just seems a waste to dump such a solid piece of steel.

LenWoods

LenWoods wrote: »

The brackets I've linked have the option of folding out quite a bit;
However; when positioned tight to the wall they don't protrude as much as the alternative bracket due to there zig zag design, check the measurements information and compare which is what I have done myself to discover the fact. :rolleyes:

Ok,
The ones you linked too.

pull out to 355mm and retract back to 68mm

This one (which I have for a 70" oled and would recommend)
low profile ultra slim design measures just 19.5mm from the wall.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/VonHaus-Bracket-Design-Curved-Televisions-Black/dp/B01FJULVG2/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=vonhaus%2Btv%2Bbracket&qid=1579095035&sr=8-6

Dr_Colossus

J.R. wrote: »

Imagine your TV is lying flat with the screen on the ground on those tiles in the photo.

Lift up the bracket as it is & place it over the back of your TV.

Line up the holes on the bracket with holes on back of TV to centre the TV on bracket. Secure with bolts..(not in photo)

Now you remove the two hanging brackets and fit to the wall.

Liftt up your frame , secured to TV and place on these brackets.

Tighten your bolts on brackets from the side..behind the TV

Interesting idea and a reverse of usual mounting brackets with the large flat plate mounted to the TV instead of the wall. I guess that could work but would likely block cable and power ports on the TV as it covers a lot of area. It would also be quite limiting to secure the hanging brackets to studs since a fixed width apart. It never occurred to me however as the bracket was wall mounted as is with the large flat plate secured to the wall with coach screws. I still suspect the bracket is missing additional fixings but I’m at a loss as to what they could be.
One idea I had was to mount a long threaded bar between the two lugs of the wall plate and use nuts each side of the hanging brackets at the versa width of the tv to lock in place. It sounds ridiculous however and not as originally designed as would be difficult to fix in place given the limited space available when the TV was secured to the hanging brackets.

awec

Are you sure you definitely need the tilt? If you're mounting it at the right height you probably don't need it to tilt.

Many people mount their TVs too high, then have to tilt them downward, and IMO it looks pretty bad.

Dr_Colossus

awec wrote: »

Are you sure you definitely need the tilt? If you're mounting it at the right height you probably don't need it to tilt.

Many people mount their TVs too high, then have to tilt them downward, and IMO it looks pretty bad.

Fair point, for the sitting room TV I shouldn't require tilt but I'll likely position it slightly higher than Centered Eye Level as plan to have recliner couches for viewing.
For the bedroom I will position it nearly to ceiling so as to reduce neck strain when lying on the bed, can be annoying having to prop yourself up on multiple pillows if wanting to watch some TV.

LenWoods

Dr_Colossus wrote: »

Fair point, for the sitting room TV I shouldn't require tilt but I'll likely position it slightly higher than Centered Eye Level as plan to have recliner couches for viewing.
For the bedroom I will position it nearly to ceiling so as to reduce neck strain when lying on the bed, can be annoying having to prop yourself up on multiple pillows if wanting to watch some TV.

+1 On the mounting position in the bedroom (no pun intended) lol

Also thanks for the feedback regarding my home improvement thread I'm glad you found it of interest;
I've put alot of hours in to formatting it correctly and it still needs a bit more detail in parts,
I've noticed not slot of people return to say thanks or to continue conversation on these forums so thanks for thd response; I will be adding further progress in the fourth quarter of 2020, sooner if I can but have a few experiences on the horizon such as the dreaded NCT
However back on thread and topic,

Shame I cant do multiple quotes in the same post on boards like I can in other forums;

@BrownFinger
Regarding the comment about my televisions being like sitting in the front row of the cinema lol
There purposely fitted high in bedroom 01 and 03 of my home as bedroom 01 has a mid sleeper bed fitted and bedroom 03 has a high sleeper bunk bed fitted in the opposite corner of the room resulting in the televisions being at the correct height,
I understand sitting at the desk and watching the television would be quite a neck strain however when there at the desk there not supposed to be watching it lol

Also I stand corrected on the chosen bracket and depth from the wall; the topic creaters choice of bracket is a slimmer fit than the options I have linked; I could have worded my initial response to better detail my advice.

That's my response over; looking forward to seeing it fitted