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Deer

  • 08-01-2020 11:51am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20


    Hi folks,

    I have just bought about 50 acres of land of medium quality. It is close to an ancient woodland of significant size and the general plan is to establish native woodland (oak, birch, holly) on our site to act as an extension and corridor for that habitat.

    We will partly apply for the NWS grant, which should cover deer fencing on about 14 acres, but there are 20 acres of existing Sitka spruce that we will thin and gradually convert, ideally with natural regeneration. The rest of the land we will attempt to have natural generation work, but will see how it works in practice.
    The big issue here (and in the ancient woodland) is exploding deer numbers, which will be an issue for natural regeneration.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for how to tackle this problem, without breaking the bank?

    Some ideas I have come across include human hair, CDs hanging from trees, radio playing talk shows. I'll try them but I'm not holding my breath.

    The deer use a the bank of deep river as a corridor (I think), so what would happen if I put deer fence on this and 300m 'inland' form the river. Can they swim? Will that sort of disruption to their habiuts make a difference?

    Another plan is to plant blackthorn and hawthorn scrub and to use them as a natural barrier for oaks. I have read about this in Wilding, but haven't found much else about it.

    Is culling the only effective option?

    Thanks!
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    ofearghp wrote: »
    Is culling the only effective option?

    Not an option unless you kill them all. A single deer can strip a hundred saplings in one night.

    You need tree guards or a 1.8m high fence all around the area you are planting. Personally, I have put two heights of sheep mesh fence all around my (small) site. The fence does not need to be cattle proof, deer won't ram it afaik, but it needs to be high and have no space to crawl under.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 ofearghp


    That's really interesting about the doubled sheep fence. You don't happen to have a photo by any chance? Is it under high tension? How many deer are there in the area?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    ofearghp wrote: »
    That's really interesting about the doubled sheep fence. You don't happen to have a photo by any chance? Is it under high tension? How many deer are there in the area?

    Photo is attached. The fence is tensed, not sure if it can be called high tension. There are thicker poles at site corners where the mesh was attached under tension. It's in Wicklow, deer is really plentiful there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 ofearghp


    Thanks for the photo, I appreciate it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    ofearghp wrote: »
    Thanks for the photo, I appreciate it

    Best of luck! You may also read this thread https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057820221

    If it's not too much trouble, you could document your own progress by taking pictures of the site now and then each year as trees grow and share it on Boards?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 ofearghp


    Thanks for thread, very interesting read. Especially the stuff about blackthorns.

    I'm planning to do a newsletter or something about the project, but will post it up here too sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 868 ✭✭✭Boardnashea


    Sounds like a great project. Best of luck with it. Where are you based?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 ofearghp


    Cheers, based in south Galway. I've learnt a lot reading through this forum, so I'll post up some stuff as I go here sure.


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