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Workshop/shed build recommendations
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06-01-2020 07:09PM#1
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paulryanmini wrote: »Good points there lads.
Had a chat on the phone with a local steel shed supplier who was trying to make out they are a temporary structure so build as big as you want.
To be honest I don’t buy this in the slightest!
So ideally it needs to be at least 6 meters wide and 8 meters long which is close to double the allowed under th expemtion.
If I have to go down the planning route I think I’ll build a proper sized shed close to 80-90sqm with a bit of a man cave in it. I’ve roughly priced this route built of block & cavity with roof and finish to match the house. To be 25k .
This route will require a considerabley longer to save for !!
That's complete BS - the seller just wants to sell: he won't get stuck with the Council when it goes pear-shaped.
There is no provision for a 'temporary' building that doesn't need PP. Even a mobile home that actually has wheels needs PP.
I build - er, buildings - for a living.
As for size, a 25m size will take one car, just about - here's my parking one 6.3m x 3.8m
Fully insulated from structural insulated panels - otherwise you're building a rust factory.
Note too you can't get a lift into it: you can't build one high enough without PP to take one. A low-level scissors lift, maybe, but def not a two-poster.
My 'working garage' is 12m x 8m, and is tall enough to take a clearfloor two-post lift without any problem. Again, fully insulated, insulated sectional doors and composite panel roof.Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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Best thing you will ever do. This is my 40 sq metre shed. I've a 2 post lift in aswell. Make sure you consider the height of the shed when buying one and make sure they use non drip sheets. My one drips like no tomorrow and something I will have to fix in the future.
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That's complete BS - the seller just wants to sell: he won't get stuck with the Council when it goes pear-shaped.
There is no provision for a 'temporary' building that doesn't need PP. Even a mobile home that actually has wheels needs PP.
I build - er, buildings - for a living.
As for size, a 25m size will take one car, just about - here's my parking one 6.3m x 3.8m
Fully insulated from structural insulated panels - otherwise you're building a rust factory.
Note too you can't get a lift into it: you can't build one high enough without PP to take one. A low-level scissors lift, maybe, but def not a two-poster.
My 'working garage' is 12m x 8m, and is tall enough to take a clearfloor two-post lift without any problem. Again, fully insulated, insulated sectional doors and composite panel roof.
Looks like a nice shed. Did you get the insulated panels from a Irish supplier ?0 -
Best thing you will ever do. This is my 40 sq metre shed. I've a 2 post lift in aswell. Make sure you consider the height of the shed when buying one and make sure they use non drip sheets. My one drips like no tomorrow and something I will have to fix in the future.
Good point on the drips.
I have a smaller shed for garden storage with non drop sheeting on the roof and it's been grand for the last few years. No drips from the roof or walls0 -
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drunkmonkey wrote: »What's the advantage of having the brick wall going around the edge?
Are pits a no no these days..
blockwork at the bottom in a single sheet shed like that make for easier and cheaper for detailing of DPC and finishes to paths/drive outside. Otherwise you're into getting flashings etc etc made.
Also good for ruggedness: garage walls do get knocks you know (bumper height, car doors, people leaving stuff against them etc).
And no, pits are complete no-no imho. I worked in the UK a long time ago, and 2 lads were killed in one close to where I lived with sunken fumes and someone went welding.....also seen too many people accidentally step into them.
And that's before you consider your kids, pets around. Fire risk alone would give me the heebies. The two-post lift would probably cost less to buy anyway.Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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duffman3833 wrote: »That looks good, plenty of room. Is that a saloon corolla?
All very organized, even the cat
Cheers duffman ,, no its a hatchback Corolla , replaced it with a big Volvo v70 since . Still plenty of space for it too.0 -
That's complete BS - the seller just wants to sell: he won't get stuck with the Council when it goes pear-shaped.
There is no provision for a 'temporary' building that doesn't need PP. Even a mobile home that actually has wheels needs PP.
I build - er, buildings - for a living.
As for size, a 25m size will take one car, just about - here's my parking one 6.3m x 3.8m
Fully insulated from structural insulated panels - otherwise you're building a rust factory.
Note too you can't get a lift into it: you can't build one high enough without PP to take one. A low-level scissors lift, maybe, but def not a two-poster.
My 'working garage' is 12m x 8m, and is tall enough to take a clearfloor two-post lift without any problem. Again, fully insulated, insulated sectional doors and composite panel roof.
Where does the talk lads be on about, that if its a
Portal shed that's only bolted to concrete, it works somewhat around planning regulations compared to a concrete built via foundations under ground level.?0
