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Sweating Bullocks Cause

  • 04-01-2020 7:04am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 896 ✭✭✭


    Just curious if any of ye ever had sweating bullocks.
    This is ongoing now with 2 months. They are only 4 in each pen and ventilation cannot be issue as they have loads space.
    They only on 4kg ration, finishing mix but it's only about 20% maize. Had them previously on maxumom as that was about 50% maize.
    I hoped the change in feed 3 weeks ago would have stopped it, but it has not.
    After this only other option is clip them, but prefer not do that as they may be sold in few months. They are 600+ kgs....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    Clip their backs and necks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,733 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I would take there temperature. Then I would talk to your vet about it. Is the ventilation in the shed adequate. Is there many other cattle in the shed and if there is how are they getting on. Are the water troughs clean and easily accessible. I would empty these and use some bleach to disinfect,flush them out and refill.

    Are the cattle thriving. It highly unusual that a lightly stocked pen of cattle would sweat unless there is complicating factors. You said they were on maximon was this adlib feeding. Were you finishing them. Did cattle sweat in the shed previous years

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 896 ✭✭✭grange mac


    I would take there temperature. Then I would talk to your vet about it. Is the ventilation in the shed adequate. Is there many other cattle in the shed and if there is how are they getting on. Are the water troughs clean and easily accessible. I would empty these and use some bleach to disinfect,flush them out and refill.

    Are the cattle thriving. It highly unusual that a lightly stocked pen of cattle would sweat unless there is complicating factors. You said they were on maximon was this adlib feeding. Were you finishing them. Did cattle sweat in the shed previous years

    Hey bass,

    No cattle not thriving. Not many of them in shed and never had this issue previous years. Had vet out while ago he said was unusual for them to sweat as plenty ventilation but open another door anyway.... Now have 10*10 openings both ends so plenty fresh air.

    Water troughs clean, but not bleached. Whst would that do?

    Not finishing them as on silage and meal. Neighbour said that it was meal was problem. I shud gotten nuts and not bulk. To me their is no difference between bulk and nuts as bulk are nuts just not compressed.

    Whst am I missing? Would they have an infection? They eating mad, wud easily take 6/7 kg if gave it as they are big animals now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,733 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    grange mac wrote: »
    Hey bass,

    No cattle not thriving. Not many of them in shed and never had this issue previous years. Had vet out while ago he said was unusual for them to sweat as plenty ventilation but open another door anyway.... Now have 10*10 openings both ends so plenty fresh air.

    Water troughs clean, but not bleached. Whst would that do?

    Not finishing them as on silage and meal. Neighbour said that it was meal was problem. I shud gotten nuts and not bulk. To me their is no difference between bulk and nuts as bulk are nuts just not compressed.

    Whst am I missing? Would they have an infection? They eating mad, wud easily take 6/7 kg if gave it as they are big animals now.

    Rations pass through gut faster than a nut. But now on 4 kgs so they should be able to handle that but even 6-7kgs should not be an issue as it is only 50% of dry matter intake.

    Cannot see shaving there backs being much help but it will not harm them either. Reason to bleach water troughs to to kill any bacteria that may be causing an issue. 50%maize would have been high but if suffering from acidosis you expect dung and lameness issues. Feed a bit of limestone flour 100grams/head for a few weeks on top of the ration in case of mild acidosis. But I have assumed reducing ration would have fixed that. What level of minerals were in the two rations

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭s8n


    i often get sweating bollocks


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    I was sweating bullocks last year tryin to sell my fat bulls.
    Never again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Hagimalone


    grange mac wrote:
    No cattle not thriving. Not many of them in shed and never had this issue previous years. Had vet out while ago he said was unusual for them to sweat as plenty ventilation but open another door anyway.... Now have 10*10 openings both ends so plenty fresh air.

    Is the 2 doors the only ventilation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 896 ✭✭✭grange mac


    Hagimalone wrote: »
    Is the 2 doors the only ventilation?

    No, 3ft gap at back wall... Had vet out he recons its the feed.... Had an issue with maxammon first bag at smelt woefully strong even accounting for the amonia. I made them take it back after 3weeks....and they replaced it... Apparently it wasn't mixed properly... Fast forward another 6weeks I took them off it and reduced the maize %.... Vet thinks stomach wa upset so have take rate down till sweat stopps and then build back up again in few weeks.
    Even today still saturated and it is all of them...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,182 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Cattle generate a serious amount of heat when they digest their food. So either A, they are generating too much heat or B, they can't dissipate it fast enough.
    I'd cut back on the meal some bit and then see if that helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 896 ✭✭✭grange mac


    Cattle generate a serious amount of heat when they digest their food. So either A, they are generating too much heat or B, they can't dissipate it fast enough.
    I'd cut back on the meal some bit and then see if that helps.

    That's my placn, take rate down again slowly till sweating stops and then take it back up hopefully not upsetting rumen function this time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,198 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    The Cattle are hot in themselves from the feed, clip the cattle from their heads to their tail end. Will stop them sweating, clipped bulls last week for a neighbour with the same problem and today cattle look totally different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    The Cattle are hot in themselves from the feed, clip the cattle from their heads to their tail end. Will stop them sweating, clipped bulls last week for a neighbour with the same problem and today cattle look totally different.

    Don't finish many here but had the same problem with stores a few years back. Vet told me to clip them and wouldn't dream of housing anything since without doing them

    Body heat rises, 2 or 3 runs of a cutter each side of the backbone will suffice. Do their tails as well.


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