Best thing to do

katiek102010

Shortly going to be applying for planning permission for a house.

On the site there is an old derelict cottage, still has roof intact. Site is circa 1 acre.

The cottage is rotten, old stone built.

What's the best option.

1) build new elsewhere on site and knock cottage?

2) make as good as can be on cottage and extend it

Still waters

Knock it

gk5000

Anybody can build a new house, but it's impossible to build an old house.


Has it nice stone? Could you incorporate one wall as a feature, or keep it as a store/outhouse?


Throw up photos!

Dudda

If you want to build a new house its important NOT to knock the existing house until you get planning permission. That's the proof of an existing house on the site which could be critical to getting planning and if for whatever reason you're refused the new build you've the refurbishment option which still exists.

BryanF

OP
What is your designer saying?

Addle

Depends on your budget.
Expect to spend more to renovate,

If it was me, I’d love the aesthetics of a renovation rather than a new build.

Dardania

Does the old house have an eircode? Might help with establishing precedence that there was a habitable dwelling on site, and ease planning as Dudda says.

elperello

You need PP to demolish a habitable dwelling.
I have seen old stone cottages retained as features on sites where nice houses were built.
It all depends on the site and where you will locate the new house.
A rough drawing or pics would help in getting suggestions.

katiek102010

No eircode on property. Hasn't been used as a dwelling I'd say since late 40's early 50's. Last use as a shed or storage. No elec supply and water is from an old well currently as in dip a bucket into it

The attic flooring has come down and "stairs" is collapsed.

Not putting up pics as of yet. No designer as we ourselves are trying to weigh our options at the moment.

elperello

katiek102010 wrote: »

No eircode on property. Hasn't been used as a dwelling I'd say since late 40's early 50's. Last use as a shed or storage. No elec supply and water is from an old well currently as in dip a bucket into it

The attic flooring has come down and "stairs" is collapsed.

Not putting up pics as of yet. No designer as we ourselves are trying to weigh our options at the moment.

Sounds like it would be classed as a shed not a house at this stage.

All the same I wouldn't rush into knocking it until you have explored all options.

It could be re-purposed as a garden shed, wendy house, office, granny flat maybe even Air BNB.

A lot depends on the site and orientation in relation to the house. Landscaping and planting could help in making the two fit together on the site.

If it really has to go perhaps you could use some of the stone in the new house ie. feature wall, fireplace.

Good luck with it.

katiek102010

elperello wrote: »

Sounds like it would be classed as a shed not a house at this stage.

All the same I wouldn't rush into knocking it until you have explored all options.

It could be re-purposed as a garden shed, wendy house, office, granny flat maybe even Air BNB.

A lot depends on the site and orientation in relation to the house. Landscaping and planting could help in making the two fit together on the site.

If it really has to go perhaps you could use some of the stone in the new house ie. feature wall, fireplace.

Good luck with it.

Think himself might like it as a workshop /shed. The site is roughly a large square with the cottage at the front on Left hand side

elperello

katiek102010 wrote: »

Think himself might like it as a workshop /shed. The site is roughly a large square with the cottage at the front on Left hand side

Could be suitable and keep clutter and/or noise away from the house.

With a bit of planting and a path with hedge leading from the house it could add to the property. You could get professional advice on suitable trees and shrubs and in 4-5 years it would blend in nicely.