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The Pope says that we must respect women.

  • 01-01-2020 6:43pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭


    Pope Francis has recently said

    " How often is a woman’s body sacrificed on the profane altar of advertising, profit, pornography,” he said, adding that the female body “must be freed from consumerism, it must be respected and honoured”.

    "Despite creating life, women “are continually offended, beaten, raped, forced into prostitution” he said.

    “We can understand our level of humanity by the way we treat a woman’s body,” he told the congregation.


    Fair play to him.
    Do you think this will bring changes into Ireland - which is a traditionally Catholic country.

    What do you think?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Why would you listen to that gobsh*te? What would he know about women? Traditionally Catholic Ireland is mostly dead and buried I'm afraid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Surely if they respected women theyd let them be priests?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭Sarahdunners


    Surely if they respected women theyd let them be priests?

    Maybe they will go that way in the future? There is always room for change


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,499 ✭✭✭Yester


    What's his stance on slapping?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭brav


    Surely if they respected women theyd let them be priests?

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0101/1103846-pope-apologises-for-slapping-womans-hand/


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  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why would you listen to that gobsh*te? What would he know about women? Traditionally Catholic Ireland is mostly dead and buried I'm afraid.

    The new one isn’t anything better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Yawn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Maybe they will go that way in the future? There is always room for change

    Should he not be leading the change if hes all about respecting women?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    The last time the Catholic Church was put in charge of women's morality it ended up with women working as slave labour and their babies being sold off to the highest bidder. So I won't be taking advice on how women are used as a commodity, by the Pope or anyone else associated with the church.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    The new one isn’t anything better.

    Less sodomising children at least


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yester wrote: »
    What's his stance on slapping?

    Shur, Twas just a reflex action. She was keeping him from touching the child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,063 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    The Pope doesn’t slap his missus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    The pope also said, and I quote; "I like big butts and I can not lie, You other brothers can't deny, That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist, And a round thing in your face, You get sprung, want to pull up tough."

    So really, you tell me where he stands!


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Less sodomising children at least

    That’s is true I’d hope, I’ll give you that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    The Pope doesn’t slap his missus.

    No but he does bash the bishop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Fair play to him. Do you think this will bring changes into Ireland - which is a traditionally Catholic country.


    He said this about 12 hours after assaulting a woman! :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭Sarahdunners


    Alot of the very bad attitudes towards women in Ireland, came from the old Catholic Church telling people that women were worth nothing.

    So I wonder - now that the Catholic Church has moved forward and has improved it's opinion.

    Will overall attitudes to women in Ireland, improve?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Alot of the very bad attitudes towards women in Ireland, came from the old Catholic Church telling people that women were worth nothing.

    So I wonder - now that the Catholic Church has moved forward and has improved it's opinion.

    Will overall attitudes to women in Ireland, improve?

    No, because no one gives a f*ck what the catholic church have to say about anything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I think you need to stop with this crusading OP. Every post I've seen of yours in the last few days is some sort of variation on women are victims/men are bad.

    This isn't the 1980s. The country has moved on and the opinion of the Church is meaningless for the vast majority of people. We also have things like SSM, divorce and abortion - all good things for not just women, but everyone. Choice is good.

    Also, we have a culture where violence or abuse of women is not tolerated, and are slowly making progress to ensure that similar violence against men isn't accepted either. These are good things too.

    Stop ignoring these things and thereby in fact ignoring the significant work done by many people to get us to this point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    He gives yer wan a bit of a slap here.
    Respect !



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,977 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    Fair play to him.
    Do you think this will bring changes into Ireland - which is a traditionally Catholic country.

    What do you think?

    He's been an idiot for saying that considering the churchs history. I think all practicing Catholics should be embarrassed by his comments.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭Sarahdunners


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    I think you need to stop with this crusading OP. Every post I've seen of yours in the last few days is some sort of variation on women are victims/men are bad.

    This isn't the 1980s. The country has moved on and the opinion of the Church is meaningless for the vast majority of people. We also have things like SSM, divorce and abortion - all good things for not just women, but everyone. Choice is good.

    Also, we have a culture where violence or abuse of women is not tolerated, and are slowly making progress to ensure that similar violence against men isn't accepted either. These are good things too.

    Stop ignoring these things and thereby in fact ignoring the significant work done by many people to get us to this point.

    I will do what I want. Not what a poster that I don't know - on an internet forum, tells me what to do.

    You don't control me ot any other poster on here. Stop with your backseat modding


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I will do what I want. Not what a poster that I don't know - on an internet forum, tells me what to do.

    You don't control me ot any other poster on here. Stop with your backseat modding

    You are by all means free to do or post whatever you want but don't expect others not to disagree and counter it too.

    You seem to have a real issue with men and what you see as their "control" over (or attempts to control) women or their lives. These situations do exist but nowhere near as commonly as you suggest, nor is it accepted or acceptable to the overwhelming majority of other men.

    That is down to the hard work and suffering of many good women who struggled to be heard in the past, the diminished influence of the Catholic Church, and a general growing up of our society over the last 20/30 years. To ignore that is to ignore the efforts of those women and others who helped change the country we live in today.

    The Ireland you talk about and the culture you complain about doesn't exist anymore. There's still work to be done, but we're in a far better place than you seem to think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Pope Francis has recently said

    " How often is a woman’s body sacrificed on the profane altar of advertising, profit, pornography,” he said, adding that the female body “must be freed from consumerism, it must be respected and honoured”.

    "Despite creating life, women “are continually offended, beaten, raped, forced into prostitution” he said.

    “We can understand our level of humanity by the way we treat a woman’s body,” he told the congregation.


    Fair play to him.
    Do you think this will bring changes into Ireland - which is a traditionally Catholic country.

    What do you think?

    Didn't he slap a woman in the last few days??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    He gives yer wan a bit of a slap here.
    Respect !

    Reached out and yanked an elderly mans arm, yanked again and then refused to let go. I'm not much of a fan of the Pope or the Catholic Church but she deserved worse than a slap. I've heard mentioned before that he's had problems with that arm in recent months so that grabbing probably really hurt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,062 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Didn't he slap a woman in the last few days??

    Mid 80s, old, arthritis, young lady dragging the arm off him. He did nothing wrong.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



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