Grownups and Gobshi*es

kurtainsider

From personal experience it's my view that people fall into 2 broad categories.
Grownups and Gobshi*es

Grownups
Get on with their lives. Try to keep things on an even keel, be fair to people, speak as they find, keep the peace in the family. Overlook the bulls*hit as far as possible.

Gobshi*es
Disrupt, divide, nurse grievances, behave badly, act recklessly, are inconsiderate and think that they are owed something.

I (obviously) consider myself a grownup. Who else has a view?

dd973

No lassitude to be one or the other dependent on the headspace or situation? Wouldn't people be either thing at some point or for extended periods of their lives?

kurtainsider

dd973 wrote: »

No lassitude to be one or the other dependent on the headspace or situation? Wouldn't people be either thing at some point or for extended periods of their lives?

No. In my experience people tend to fall into one category or the other in a general sense.

uch

How many categories of Cake do you know? seeing as it is cake season

ILoveYourVibes

I think you have made the spectrum for gob****es too narrow.

Grown ups are patient and kind to everyone. They never lose their tempers. Mary Poppins is a grown up.

Gob****es are irritated by every little thing.

fineso.mom

Having read both definitions, I can say with the utmost confidence that I am, in fact, a grown up.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

So, dicks and... well, non-dicks I suppose...

uch

Well now I'd consider myself a Gobshíte, I'm a big 50 year old tool, but I like to not take things too serious, theres too many snowflake, politically correct cúnts knocking about these days who'd be very offended if I farted in their general direction, now for example.., I watched the Dam Busters film today, and the wing commanders dog was called N*gg*r because he was a black dog, don't get me wrong I hate the word, but im surprised it hasn't been latched onto, only thing I can think that it wasn't is because it was an old war film and it's to be frowned upon to slag off the lads that were in the war, now if Macgowan is being banned for saying ******t, I really dont know, most young people get their ideas from UK/US TV, and sound the same, how on earth does a youngone from carlow keep saying 'Like' 15 times in a sentence? And then you have Strawberry cheesecake, who in the name of God invented that, it's the Devils Scutter and should be banned from all activities on the planet, and if you've read this far you can tell that I'm a rambling oul fart and you should be spending your time more usefully slagging off vegans,, or, Vegits as I like to call them, and don't get me started on the old age pension, it's not my fault I'm 14 years too young to get it, if you can be a girl one day, a boy the next, or identify as a goblet of heffer piss, then I want me pension yiz weirdo's, anyway, try the lemon cheesecake and don';t be a spanner

Fooled me uch: you're not on my ignore list which I regard as a good bellwether to class somebody as a gob$hite.
About 20% of those on my ignore list end up posting in boards prison at some point or another.

Been on boards here since 2009.

TBH you"ve set a very high bar for the grown-up standard.

I'd say an establishment like RTÉ has a somewhat higher proportion of gob$hites to grown-ups than here on boards.

fineso.mom

fineso.mom wrote: »

Having read both definitions, I can say with the utmost confidence that I am, in fact, a grown up.

I hereby confirm that for you, fineso-mom, you're not on my ignore list.

dd973

dd973 wrote: »

No lassitude to be one or the other dependent on the headspace or situation? Wouldn't people be either thing at some point or for extended periods of their lives?

They might get trapped in the "gob$hiterry trap" Where the herd mentality is pervasive, though. And those who soccumb to "keeping up with the Joneses". Finally the types who embrace the philosophy "Follow the crowd to be successful".

MrMusician18

Surely by the definition above most people will think that they are grown ups, when in fact most people, by the above definitions are gob****es.

People generally overstate their positive traits such as intelligence and generosity.

Quantum Erasure

be fair to people, speak as they find, ...

maybe more 'grown-ups' hold their tongue, even if it would be more true to speak their mind...


by your definition above, and by probably any definition, I am a Gobshte online. But I try to be a grownup in real life...

ILoveYourVibes

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

maybe more 'grown-ups' hold their tongue, even if it would be more true to speak their mind...

I find i am doing it more and more. But i am not sure that is a good thing at all. Maybe we need kids.

Church on Tuesday

Broadly agree with OP. I find folk are basically either;

A. People with common sense and a healthy realistic perspective with a bit of decency

B. People with a massive chip on their shoulder who love to make life difficult for others and are, at the heart of it all, pretty toxic individuals as a result.

We all have our off days granted but there is a big difference between having a bad day and being a dickhead for the sake of it.

kurtainsider

kurtainsider wrote: »

Grownups
Get on with their lives. Try to keep things on an even keel, be fair to people, speak as they find, keep the peace in the family. Overlook the bulls*hit as far as possible.

Gobshi*es
Disrupt, divide, nurse grievances, behave badly, act recklessly, are inconsiderate and think that they are owed something.

I (obviously) consider myself a grownup. Who else has a view?

I think my view would be that some of the things in each category are not automatically bad or good things. For example some bad choices can be made by trying to be too "fair" to people or trying too hard to "keep the peace". Sometimes disruption and change is not just good - but required. And keeping the peace when something needs to be changed or confronted can cause more harm than good. All too often "keeping the peace" means "cowardly avoid necessary confrontation".

Nursing grievances is not automatically bad either. It depends how it manifests in you internally and externally. I nurse grievances against many injustices - as well as the individuals or organizations that perpetrate them - and this manifests as me working to be a positive force for change in my own home and in my community.

As for acting recklessly - depending on the ends this is also more than justified. I made - and continue to make - a very positive change on the lives of a group of troubled teens. My initial meeting with them - which is one where I allowed myself to be isolated and attacked by them - was probably deeply reckless in fact.

So give me a little of column A and a little of column B please. And if that requires you to call me a Gobshi*e Grownup - or Grownup Gobshi*e - I can live with that

Esse85

I read a book this morning that grouped people into either drivers or passengers.

Unfortunately the ratio is highly favoured towards passangers.