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Man basket

  • 26-12-2019 12:10pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,593 ✭✭✭


    Has any one here got or made a man basket for your loader or handler?

    I've got a pile of spare box section and a need for a basket so was considering designing one myself.

    I've already looked at a few online and have seen a few good features that I could incorporate such as the access gate only capable of opening inwards preventing it inadvertently being forced open by leaning on it. Another had castor on it for moving around.

    The one thing I've not seen so far is how they lock the cage onto the pallet forks. Is it anything more subtle than chains wrapped around the frame of the loader?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    I'd go away and get brackets for it for the loader all together, much safer. Neighbour has one used more for moving calves in the spring but has put mesh along the bottom to stop any tools from being knocked out. A harness is no bad thing to have about the place either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭alps


    Has any one here got or made a man basket for your loader or handler?

    I've got a pile of spare box section and a need for a basket so was considering designing one myself.

    I've already looked at a few online and have seen a few good features that I could incorporate such as the access gate only capable of opening inwards preventing it inadvertently being forced open by leaning on it. Another had castor on it for moving around.

    The one thing I've not seen so far is how they lock the cage onto the pallet forks. Is it anything more subtle than chains wrapped around the frame of the loader?

    Springs or some other method of softening a fall in the event of a hydraulic failure..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,593 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Mooooo wrote: »
    I'd go away and get brackets for it for the loader all together, much safer. Neighbour has one used more for moving calves in the spring but has put mesh along the bottom to stop any tools from being knocked out. A harness is no bad thing to have about the place either

    That was the initial plan, but all of seen were forklift type so I thought they must have a way of locking it on in case the driver had a rough night.

    If I do make it, there will definitely be an eye for hooking up a harness to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,044 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    This is mine from 4 years ago.

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    I've the plates angled on the back to maximise the weld from a Euro hitch, a kick plate all around the basket to prevent tools being kicked out but a few mm's off the base to let water drain, there's no gate as at the time I thought it would ruin the strength of it but maybe in hindsight I might have added (but still not sure on that), there's bars all around but waist high in the front for work.
    It's either 8ft x 4ft or 10ft x 4ft. Not sure atm but you get the idea.

    The basket is a necessity for working at height, giving a stable platform.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭anfieldrd


    Made one last year, use it for transporting calves from calving house to calf shed at times. Welded euro bracket onto it with extra plate behind for extra support.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,593 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Initial thought was to make a smallish cage solid side for lower 6" minimum in order to prevent tools and parts being dropped out, inward swinging gate, chequer plate floor with drain holes.
    I've yet to be convinced about how secure the pallet fork setup will be. I can foresee laziness or forgetfulness causing the cage not to be locked in place.

    Is there a standard height for the cage from floor to the upper rail?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭Who2


    Initial thought was to make a smallish cage solid side for lower 6" minimum in order to prevent tools and parts being dropped out, inward swinging gate, chequer plate floor with drain holes.
    I've yet to be convinced about how secure the pallet fork setup will be. I can foresee laziness or forgetfulness causing the cage not to be locked in place.

    Is there a standard height for the cage from floor to the upper rail?

    1100 mm is standard for these. For locking it on a lot of them have brackets that extend past the forks , these have holes in them so a pin goes into them behind the vertical part of the forks thus allowing them to lock in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭satstheway


    Are loaders fitted with safety check valves as standard?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭alps


    satstheway wrote: »
    Are loaders fitted with safety check valves as standard?

    No...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭satstheway


    alps wrote: »
    No...

    Thought not. Would be like a bad funfair ride if pipe burst.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭Belongamick


    AnfieldRd cage above is excellent.
    As a possible alternative for a cage not in everyday use could the cage of an IBC be used? Just remove the plastics insert and you have a ready made cage suitable for pallet forks - you would have to fashion a small gate for entry/exit of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭mycro2013


    These are no longer allowed to be used on teleporters onsite unless the person in the basket has full control of the basket movements from remote controls within the basket.

    Grand for moving calves but as for an outside contractor such as a spark using them for works you're leaving yourself wide open should anything happen.

    Conditions Regarding the Lifting of Persons
    Regulation 48 states that work equipment ‘not specifically designed’ for the purpose of
    lifting persons is not to be used other than in exceptional circumstances. A teleporter or a
    crane used with a non-integrated man-rider cage falls into this category. Where
    exceptional circumstances prevail some of the conditions that apply include:
     The control position must be manned at all times.
     The cage basket must be properly secured to the lifting machine.
     The total load must be half the rated capacity of the lifting equipment.
     The lifting equipment has a capacity not less than 1000kg unless the manufacture
    indicates that the machine is suitable for such use.
     Lifting equipment in free fall mode must not be used for lifting persons.

    Exceptional refers to emergency situations (unscheduled and not planned works)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭alps


    mycro2013 wrote: »

    Exceptional refers to emergency situations (unscheduled and not planned works)

    I think you've actually isolated the reason why farming has the worst H&S record....

    IT'S not that farmers don't see the danger....but the mindset is that the job fits into the "emergency situations" category....

    Unscheduled, not planned but it just need to be done ..now..

    I'll have to take the chance...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    Would far prefer to have one of these around the farm for work at height THAN... fellas in grabs, buckets, pallets on top of forks etc.

    In a building job totally get the legislation....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭alps


    49801 wrote: »
    Would far prefer to have one of these around the farm for work at height THAN... fellas in grabs, buckets, pallets on top of forks etc.

    In a building job totally get the legislation....

    The exact same risks exist on farms, but we dont give it the same respect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Have used the basket occasionally. But found unless it was very straight forward hiring out a lift from a plant hire gives better access, more height and manoeuvrability the ones you can tow behind the car that have jacks on em anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭Who2


    alps wrote: »
    The exact same risks exist on farms, but we dont give it the same respect.

    The reality is it’s safer than dragging and tearing off the top of a ladder. Jobs won’t get done and couldn’t afford to be done if you had to go hire an access platform every time you needed to do something. Simple tasks like changing a bulb in a light on a high roof are made ten times safer and easier with them. Without side shift, boom or jacks your fairly limited with what they are suitable for off a loader but they do help. While H&M’s is important practically needs to be implemented every now and then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    alps wrote: »
    The exact same risks exist on farms, but we dont give it the same respect.

    I still far prefer to encourage the use of a proper basket. Nothing is without risk


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