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Farmyard Rubbish

  • 20-12-2019 12:14pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭


    How do people dispose of general rubbish on their farms?

    Have 3 big fertiliser bags full of all sorts of ****e from the farm that I want to get rid of responsibly - rather than burning it or throwing it into a hole like I used to see other farmers doing.

    It's all random bits that i've been gathering throughout the year. So plastic, metal and timber mixed together.

    The black silage plastic and netting is separate and that's collected on its own.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,375 ✭✭✭893bet


    The most responsible way is to separate it out.

    Timber-dry and burn or dump and let it rot away.

    Metal-scrap yard

    Hard plastic-local recycling centre

    Soft plastic-bin it

    Leave it together then it can only go to land fill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,719 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Earnshaw wrote: »
    How do people dispose of general rubbish on their farms?

    Have 3 big fertiliser bags full of all sorts of ****e from the farm that I want to get rid of responsibly - rather than burning it or throwing it into a hole like I used to see other farmers doing.

    It's all random bits that i've been gathering throughout the year. So plastic, metal and timber mixed together.

    The black silage plastic and netting is separate and that's collected on its own.

    No easy answer to that question really.
    As above, if your serious it will need separating.

    Other than that a skip and load them in.

    Had similar discussion with a client recently after a cross compliance inspection and he reckons soon enough we will need to be showing proof of how this is being done.

    Maybe receipts for proper waste company.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭capslock88


    Every year I take a cow box full to the local landfill...it's all stuff that can't be recycled or is too dirty..if there does happen to be any timber or metal in it then they have a section where I can put that as well...I find it keeps the place at home relatively clear and tidy...It costs about 90e or so but it's worth it to know I won't ever have to be looking at it again!..All recyclable plastic goes to ipppg in a separate load..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,334 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    capslock88 wrote: »
    Every year I take a cow box full to the local landfill...it's all stuff that can't be recycled or is too dirty..if there does happen to be any timber or metal in it then they have a section where I can put that as well...I find it keeps the place at home relatively clear and tidy...It costs about 90e or so but it's worth it to know I won't ever have to be looking at it again!..All recyclable plastic goes to ipppg in a separate load..

    Local place here charges €200/ton and they sort it, there's a lot of rubbish in a ton. I usually sort it but I don't think I'll be bothered from now on, life's too short


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,125 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Sort it and each type goes different routes. I had a pile of empty small fertiliser and meal bags and nowhere to go. Put an add on Donedeal and weeks later a guy rang looking for them. Took them all and gave me a few €€ for them. He sent me on a text later saying he'd take more from me aswell. Before that I was paying the plastic recycling to take them.

    Old tyres still a constant headache here. Mad pile of them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭TheFarrier


    The council recycling centre is about 3 miles away from me here at home.
    Car trailer in corner of the yard, fill it away as we go. We don’t use any wheelie bin service. House hold rubbish and recycling in bins at back porch, and when those are full, back into the trailer and take household and yard rubbish in one fell swoop, usually once a month or that way.

    €3 to get through the gate, and they usually want €10 or €15 for the rubbish. The listed car trailer rate is €20 but when there’s any recycling at all in with rubbish they’re usually sound enough.
    An hour a month of a Saturday morning and the place is kept reasonably right.

    Keep all the receipts stuck to a notice board in the office, for the day they’ll come knocking asking us to prove we’re not fly tipping.

    Have done big clear outs too, when doing up the house, and got rid of heaps of stuff for a fraction of the price of a mini skip.

    Plus the rubbish in the trailer keeps lads from wanting to borrow it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,919 ✭✭✭Odelay


    The IFA or similar should be asking for a derogation to exempt silage pit tires for recycling without a fee, or a minimal fee. A once off, with a limit, 90% to be over ten years old, and link it to herd number.
    There must be the world of tires in yards that are not of use anymore. Much of them were repurposed long before the disposal fees came in.
    What else will happen to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Odelay wrote: »
    The IFA or similar should be asking for a derogation to exempt silage pit tires for recycling without a fee, or a minimal fee. A once off, with a limit, 90% to be over ten years old, and link it to herd number.
    There must be the world of tires in yards that are not of use anymore. Much of them were repurposed long before the disposal fees came in.
    What else will happen to them.

    I separate them and bring it to the recycling/landfill centre.

    I brought recyclables in one trip. Load of old radiators, electrical, plastics, cans etc. very good value and at least they are getting recycled.

    On another trip, I filled the 8 x 4 trailer with carts to brim with nut bags, manure bags etc. It's €70 per trailers, so I filled to the top, packed them down with the mini digger,, filled again,, packed them down again and filled to the top.
    It was all bags of bags, about 10 years worth so it too about 10 minutes to empty at the centre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Odelay wrote: »
    The IFA or similar should be asking for a derogation to exempt silage pit tires for recycling without a fee, or a minimal fee. A once off, with a limit, 90% to be over ten years old, and link it to herd number.
    There must be the world of tires in yards that are not of use anymore. Much of them were repurposed long before the disposal fees came in.
    What else will happen to them.

    There was a while back., you must have missed it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Odelay wrote: »
    The IFA or similar should be asking for a derogation to exempt silage pit tires for recycling without a fee, or a minimal fee. A once off, with a limit, 90% to be over ten years old, and link it to herd number.
    There must be the world of tires in yards that are not of use anymore. Much of them were repurposed long before the disposal fees came in.
    What else will happen to them.

    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/400-farmers-and-900t-of-tyres-arrive-at-cootehill-tyre-collection/


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,358 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Any tips for reducing the amount of plastic used on farms or ways to recycle containers etc to give them a new life.have almost cut out bags either big or small for ration(only calf stuff in spring).next is bales-i d love to know the figure for the amount of plastic used to make 50 acres of bales verus plastic on pit.oil by the barrel that said oil drums are reusable up to a point


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    K.G. wrote: »
    Any tips for reducing the amount of plastic used on farms or ways to recycle containers etc to give them a new life.have almost cut out bags either big or small for ration(only calf stuff in spring).next is bales-i d love to know the figure for the amount of plastic used to make 50 acres of bales verus plastic on pit.oil by the barrel that said oil drums are reusable up to a point

    Depending on usage could get teat tip etc delivered in ibcs? I get milking machine oil by the barrel now, they are steel so can go for scrap., same for hydraulic oil


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,110 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    I would love to know the sheer amount of black plastic used on silage bales trough out he country ,surely this would be the biggest single use of plastic in the country .We all know it is not much use in recycling ether you would think at this stage an alternative enviromently friendly plastic could be used for bales


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,358 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    cute geoge wrote: »
    I would love to know the sheer amount of black plastic used on silage bales trough out he country ,surely this would be the biggest single use of plastic in the country .We all know it is not much use in recycling ether you would think at this stage an alternative enviromently friendly plastic could be used for bales

    Open to correction and rough estimate s.
    Roll of wrap 30 kilos .50 acres at 10 bales is 500 bales÷30bales a roll is 1/2ton of plastic
    A 50 x100 cover might do 50 acres at 100kg? Of plastic.
    Dipute as you please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    cute geoge wrote: »
    I would love to know the sheer amount of black plastic used on silage bales trough out he country ,surely this would be the biggest single use of plastic in the country .We all know it is not much use in recycling ether you would think at this stage an alternative environmentally friendly plastic could be used for bales

    I think it can be recycled and re purposed into other products.
    I would say there were more plastic spoons and forks used in Fast food outlets than agriculture waste in bales. It would good if there was an alternative.

    You get a nice plastic lid on a drink but with a recyclable straw.. They all go in the one bin in any of the fast food outlets. but there isn't much discussion on that at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭visatorro


    K.G. wrote: »
    Any tips for reducing the amount of plastic used on farms or ways to recycle containers etc to give them a new life.have almost cut out bags either big or small for ration(only calf stuff in spring).next is bales-i d love to know the figure for the amount of plastic used to make 50 acres of bales verus plastic on pit.oil by the barrel that said oil drums are reusable up to a point

    I'm either getting fert in coop filled into spreader or delivered top lift so less plastic. Feckin hate plastic from bale's. There is places making posts out of 50 gallon plastic drums. Few 25kg bags of calf crunch are used for bins.
    Can hard plastics from doses be recycled if washed out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    Anyone with a few 40 (or are they now 50?) gallon plastic drums going spare in West Cork, feel free to ping me...
    Am looking for a few for a small project... ;)

    Edit : ha ha, I re-read my post, and realised I am turning into what my grandfather used to do, and I used to hate - bringing home other lads rubbish, cos ‘it’d be useful’ :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,110 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    I heard back in the day a entrepreneur stacked empty plastic buckets and drums into each other and packed container full and exported back to China ,suppose plastic is so cheap nowadays it is not a runner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    cute geoge wrote: »
    I heard back in the day a entrepreneur stacked empty plastic buckets and drums into each other and packed container full and exported back to China ,suppose plastic is so cheap nowadays it is not a runner

    China has stopped accepting the wests rubbish. Apparently the got sick of being dumped on. Was covered a while back. A lot of 'recyclable' wasn't recyclable at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,998 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    I’m clearing out our old tool shed and there is a 4-5 buckets of old spanners, broken, imperial, some odd bits the old man gathered up over the years. Any suggestions for getting rid of them or just the local metal yard?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭Thepillowman


    I’m clearing out our old tool shed and there is a 4-5 buckets of old spanners, broken, imperial, some odd bits the old man gathered up over the years. Any suggestions for getting rid of them or just the local metal yard?

    Lots of people use imperial spanners still myself included. Should be easy enough to move them on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭Melodeon


    I’m clearing out our old tool shed and there is a 4-5 buckets of old spanners, broken, imperial, some odd bits the old man gathered up over the years. Any suggestions for getting rid of them or just the local metal yard?

    A lot of people are interested in old tools and the like, so don't rush to the scrapyard option too quickly!
    The IVETA run/facilitate several auto-jumbles throughout the year, if you can hold on until one of those is going on within reasonable reach of you; no 2020 calendar online yet, but last year's gives a good idea of that goes on: https://www.iveta.ie/index.php/rally-dates

    Or even just go along to a nearby rally to see what people are interested in.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    I’m clearing out our old tool shed and there is a 4-5 buckets of old spanners, broken, imperial, some odd bits the old man gathered up over the years. Any suggestions for getting rid of them or just the local metal yard?
    Melodeon wrote: »
    A lot of people are interested in old tools and the like, so don't rush to the scrapyard option too quickly!
    The IVETA run/facilitate several auto-jumbles throughout the year, if you can hold on until one of those is going on within reasonable reach of you; no 2020 calendar online yet, but last year's gives a good idea of that goes on: https://www.iveta.ie/index.php/rally-dates

    Or even just go along to a nearby rally to see what people are interested in.

    If Melodeon's suggestion doesn't work out for you then you could up-cycle them:D
    https://www.pinterest.ie/pin/443604632028695639/?lp=true

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    I remember seeing a video where a south African farmer was turning all his plastic waste into diesel using a mini refinery that he built out of scrap. Must see if I can find it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,998 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    blue5000 wrote: »
    If Melodeon's suggestion doesn't work out for you then you could up-cycle them:D
    https://www.pinterest.ie/pin/443604632028695639/?lp=true

    Nice idea but don’t have the patience! Will keep an eye for the vintage rallies. I want them gone but would feel bad dumping them too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,814 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Melodeon wrote: »
    A lot of people are interested in old tools and the like, so don't rush to the scrapyard option too quickly!
    The IVETA run/facilitate several auto-jumbles throughout the year, if you can hold on until one of those is going on within reasonable reach of you; no 2020 calendar online yet, but last year's gives a good idea of that goes on: https://www.iveta.ie/index.php/rally-dates

    Or even just go along to a nearby rally to see what people are interested in.

    I'd advertise them in batches on Adverts or Done deal which you can do for free. I did autojumbles in the past but got turned off by their entry fees, more than what a car boot sale would ask at times. Otherwise if you know some one going, ask them to sell them for you and split the fee or give something for their trouble.


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