Tolls on motorway network to increase on January 1st

marno21

A few minor increases in tolls on the motorway network on January 1st

* M3 to rise 10c to €1.50 for cars, and 10c to 80c for motorcycles
* HGVs with four axels to increase 10c to €6.20 on the M1 Drogheda bypass, M4 Kilcock/Kinnegad (to €7.20), M6 Galway-Ballinasloe, M7/M8, M8 Fermoy/Rathcormac bypass, N18 Limerick Tunnel and N25 Waterford bypass
* M50 tolls to rise by 10c for buses

Article also says tolls for LGVs will increase by 10c but not on which roads, and the 2000kg classification is different to the existing 3500kg classification

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/hauliers-face-higher-toll-charges-on-many-motorways-1.4119710

Gaspode

Great, just what we needed to hear

AugustusMinimus

Why is the M3 so much cheaper for cars than other motorways which are generally €1.90.

marno21

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Why is the M3 so much cheaper for cars than other motorways which are generally €1.90.

Two separate tolls on the road 35km apart (one south of Kells and one south of Navan near Dunshaughlin).

The net price of using the entire M3 is similar to the price of using the M4 Kilcock-Enfield-Kinnegad scheme

Ha Long Bay

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Why is the M3 so much cheaper for cars than other motorways which are generally €1.90.

Is it not because there are two tolling points on that motorway?

Gaspode

2 tolls on the M3 so now €6 a day to use it.

bladespin

Gaspode wrote: »

2 tolls on the M3 so now €6 a day to use it.

Pretty poor value really, there really isn't much in it between the motorway and the 'old' road, especially now.

AugustusMinimus

€6 return is awful value.

This doesn’t seem to matter unless you use the M3, which is not too bad.

How did the M3 end up with two tolls so close together anyway?

pummice

You can go all the way from Waterford to Dublin on Motorway with no tolls. What did the people who live near the M€ do to deserve two tolls?

Captcha

pummice wrote: »

You can go all the way from Waterford to Dublin on Motorway with no tolls. What did the people who live near the M€ do to deserve two tolls?

Going south from south Dublin is free.

Going anywhere north is charged. keeps the south in the south and the northers in the north by the looks of it

pummice

Captcha wrote: »

Going south from south Dublin is free.

Not Quite. If you are going to Cork there are tolls at Portlaoise and Fermoy. But Waterford - None!

L1011

These are CPI linked so the increases are at least transparent and predictable. We also had cuts when the CPI went down albeit it was like pulling teeth to get the operators to cut it - took a court case to establish the precedent.

Gaspode

Costing me a bloody fortune anyway!

Bards

pummice wrote: »

You can go all the way from Waterford to Dublin on Motorway with no tolls. What did the people who live near the M€ do to deserve two tolls?

Waterford has a toll on its bypass along with Limerick and Dublin... but cork has a toll free bypass

blindsider

LOL! Have you travelled the Cork road network recently? It's about to explode at the seams.

Tolling the existing network would cause it to implode.

There's a toll at Fermoy BTW - on the busiest route out of Cork.

Out of interest, where would you put a toll?

marno21

blindsider wrote: »

LOL! Have you travelled the Cork road network recently? It's about to explode at the seams.

Tolling the existing network would cause it to implode.

There's a toll at Fermoy BTW - on the busiest route out of Cork.

Out of interest, where would you put a toll?

I hate to be a pedant but the M8 is the 3rd busiest route out of Cork, behind the N25 and N28.

All the routes out of Cork register more than 20,000 vehicles - 6 of them are single carriageways.

Carawaystick

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

This doesn’t seem to matter unless you use the M3, which is not too bad.

How did the M3 end up with two tolls so close together anyway?

The M50 is 13.50 each way at peak time.... and the tolls are much closer

Hibernicis

marno21 wrote: »

All the routes out of Cork register more than 20,000 vehicles - 6 of them are single carriageways.

I would live to print that in 6” high blood red letters, frame it and nail it to the wall of Shane Ross’s Ministerial office.

And print a second copy for Simon Coveney......

Chris_5339762

Bards wrote: »

Waterford has a toll on its bypass along with Limerick and Dublin... but cork has a toll free bypass

A toll on the tunnel has been discussed many times in the past but it would be absolute political suicide to actually do it. And it would cause the entire of Cork city to completely jam up overnight.

Carawaystick

Carawaystick wrote: »

The M50 is 13.50 each way at peak time.... and the tolls are much closer

Where are you getting 13.50 from?
Even if a lorry was to pass through the toll twice in a single day it would be 12.60 with out a tag from

https://www.eflow.ie/help-guidance/faqs/the-m50-toll-road/

The only toll route I'm aware of in Dublin that has a peak and off peak rate is the pot tunnel and that's 10e peak and 3e off peak.

marno21

Hibernicis wrote: »

I would live to print that in 6” high blood red letters, frame it and nail it to the wall of Shane Ross’s Ministerial office.

And print a second copy for Simon Coveney......

Make it even more damning, 6 of the 7 roads are single carriageways

Or to express volume as a percentage of capacity

N25 Castlemartyr - 146%
N28 Carrs Hill - 273%
N71 Ballinhassig - 175%
N27 Airport Hill - 177%
N22 Ovens - 191%
N20 Rathduff - 153%

Hibernicis

marno21 wrote: »

N28 Carrs Hill - 273%

That is well worth repeating

273%

So the N28 as it stands today is physically capable of handling 1/3 of the traffic that is actually using it. In other words the road can handle one in every three vehicles that are actually using it. Or put another way two out of every three vehicles shouldn’t be there.

It’s astonishing that a single fact can convey such clarity.

Rather than derail this thread I’ll address this on the M28 thread when I get an opportunity.

marieholmfan

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Why is the M3 so much cheaper for cars than other motorways which are generally €1.90.

Because it serves Cavan they had to split the tolling to make it inconvenient to skip the tolls.

Bummer1234

Is the M3 still part owned by a private Spanish company?