Potholes. Fixing correctly

kingbhome

We own a small private road off a council owned road which has now alot of deep potholes. It's now at a stage I'm thinking of resurfacing part of the road with new tarmac in late summer 2020 However in the meantime, what's the best method of fixing up the potholes.

The council used to fill them but a few months later they always reappeared after some heavy traffic. What I noticed when the council filled them was a case of just throwing new tarmac in and leaving to harden. Surely there's a better method whick will prolong the time of the holes being filled.

Any tips or advice on how to fix them.

Dupont

The handiest thing is getting some “delay set tarmacadam”. Put it in the hole and whack it in. It’s actually pretty good and will last a long time on your private lane. It can be got in some tarmac suppliers they would sell it by weight or you can buy it in buckets.
Other option is to cut out the patch, and use hot tarmacadam in it but you probaly don’t have the equipment for this and it’s harder to transport the tar without a hotbox or similar.

macadam

Dupont wrote: »

The handiest thing is getting some “delay set tarmacadam”. Put it in the hole and whack it in. It’s actually pretty good and will last a long time on your private lane. It can be got in some tarmac suppliers they would sell it by weight or you can buy it in buckets.
Other option is to cut out the patch, and use hot tarmacadam in it but you probaly don’t have the equipment for this and it’s harder to transport the tar without a hotbox or similar.

Delay set wont last a week, you will just be wasting money.

macadam

kingbhome wrote: »

We own a small private road off a council owned road which has now alot of deep potholes. It's now at a stage I'm thinking of resurfacing part of the road with new tarmac in late summer 2020 However in the meantime, what's the best method of fixing up the potholes.

The council used to fill them but a few months later they always reappeared after some heavy traffic. What I noticed when the council filled them was a case of just throwing new tarmac in and leaving to harden. Surely there's a better method whick will prolong the time of the holes being filled.

Any tips or advice on how to fix them.

What surface is on the private road? It maybe not worth patching if there is nothing to join into..

Wildly Boaring

Delay set is a complete waste of time.

Can you get a ton of asphalt or macadam locally?

Collect in a trailer or get delivered by hot box.
If putting in trailer put ply over and use quickly

The best thing of all is actually roof pitch.
You buy it in blocks of about 5kg
Heat in a steel bucket and pour in. Lasts ages.
ie We did a motorway patch in 2012 and it's still there.
Prob too hard if you need a decent quantity.

Triboro

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

Delay set is a complete waste of time.

Can you get a ton of asphalt or macadam locally?

Collect in a trailer or get delivered by hot box.
If putting in trailer put ply over and use quickly

The best thing of all is actually roof pitch.
You buy it in blocks of about 5kg
Heat in a steel bucket and pour in. Lasts ages.
ie We did a motorway patch in 2012 and it's still there.
Prob too hard if you need a decent quantity.

How long does it take the pitch to set after pouring and are them blocks available in builder suppliers?
How much would a 5kg block do at 3 inch depth? Thanks for the info!

Wildly Boaring

Triboro wrote: »

How long does it take the pitch to set after pouring and are them blocks available in builder suppliers?
How much would a 5kg block do at 3 inch depth? Thanks for the info!

10kg block is 450x250x100
So at 3 inch deep and say 6 inch wide do a metre.

Go solid in 10 mins.
Used to get in a hardware alright
Quick google shows Goodwins carry road bitumin blocks which be nearly as good

Triboro

Sound,thanks for that.

macadam

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

10kg block is 450x250x100
So at 3 inch deep and say 6 inch wide do a metre.

Go solid in 10 mins.
Used to get in a hardware alright
Quick google shows Goodwins carry road bitumin blocks which be nearly as good

Cant see this lasting it will either breakup in the cold or youll stick to it in anything above 18degreees.

Triboro

Cant be too bad if it has lasted 8 years on a motorway patch!

PhilOssophy

Send a bill to the council for car repair caused by potholes, they'll fix them quicker then.

landcrzr

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Send a bill to the council for car repair caused by potholes, they'll fix them quicker then.

On a private road.....

macadam

Triboro wrote: »

Cant be too bad if it has lasted 8 years on a motorway patch!

Not a chance that was put or let on a motorway. Try it, it wont last a week in this weather. It not even supposed to be used this way. If you want call to me and Ill prove it in two minutes.

Wildly Boaring

macadam wrote: »

Not a chance that was put or let on a motorway. Try it, it wont last a week in this weather. It not even supposed to be used this way. If you want call to me and Ill prove it in two minutes.

Chainage 40 Southbound M8
Recurring pothole in wearing and prob all of binder.
Say 300x300
Pitch in it with chips rolled in.
Done in 2013 or 2014

macadam

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

Chainage 40 Southbound M8
Recurring pothole in wearing and prob all of binder.
Say 300x300
Pitch in it with chips rolled in.
Done in 2013 or 2014

Obviously it wasnt bought in a hardware store, what penetration was it, it must have been mastic . May I also commend you on your memory of the chainage point.

Wildly Boaring

macadam wrote: »

Obviously it wasnt bought in a hardware store, what penetration was it, it must have been maastic . May I also commend you on your memory of the chainage point.

Yes it was mastic.
Sorry OP, already got my learning in for the day already.

Should've know better than to contradict this man on the black stuff.

That repair is actually just shy of 40, 39.8 or so. Notice how well it looks every time I pass.
Must have been 100 tubs delayset wasted on it over the years.

OP you're back to trying to get your hands on a ton of tar I'm afraid.
Whatever you can get. DBM, SMA, Smaller chip the better
Keep it as insulated as possible.
Inti a dry clean hole with edges cut straight where possible.
Compact as well as you can.

macadam

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

Yes it was mastic.
Sorry OP, already got my learning in for the day already.

Should've know better than to contradict this man on the black stuff.

That repair is actually just shy of 40, 39.8 or so. Notice how well it looks every time I pass.
Must have been 100 tubs delayset wasted on it over the years.

OP you're back to trying to get your hands on a ton of tar I'm afraid.
Whatever you can get. DBM, SMA, Smaller chip the better
Keep it as insulated as possible.
Inti a dry clean hole with edges cut straight where possible.
Compact as well as you can.

Not contradicting me at all, you know yourself in this trade yur always learning, as every day/job brings different challenges...
Also OP if you can line scour the inside of the pothole with tack coat.
Ideally post a picture and we will have a better idea.

PhilOssophy

landcrzr wrote: »

On a private road.....

Sorry missed that point

macadam

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Sorry missed that point

The point being , the council wont repair a private road..

PhilOssophy

macadam wrote: »

The point being , the council wont repair a private road..

Yes indeed