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Gutter gullies don't go anywhere

  • 13-12-2019 10:20am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭


    The gullies for my gutters just go into the soil apparently. There is no soakpit or watercourse.

    Is there any situation where this setup makes sense, or is it definitely an oversight?

    There is no nearby water course and it is a one-off build. There is space to construct a soakpit if necessary. Is planning permission required to build one? What regulations are there about them?

    Water butts might make sense for the gutters as a simpler solution if that is sufficient and preferable. However we're also currently having a 60 sq m patio/play area put in that drains into the gullies. Would a soakpit be required for that , even if water butts were used to collect the water from the gutters?

    How big an issue is this?


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    The gullies for my gutters just go into the soil apparently. There is no soakpit or watercourse.

    Is there any situation where this setup makes sense, or is it definitely an oversight?

    There is no nearby water course and it is a one-off build. There is space to construct a soakpit if necessary. Is planning permission required to build one? What regulations are there about them?

    Water butts might make sense for the gutters as a simpler solution if that is sufficient and preferable. However we're also currently having a 60 sq m patio/play area put in that drains into the gullies. Would a soakpit be required for that , even if water butts were used to collect the water from the gutters?

    How big an issue is this?

    When was the house built?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    kceire wrote: »
    When was the house built?
    1979


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    1979

    Pre-Dates our Building Regulations.
    Building bye Laws back then.

    I suppose you could carry out some works to remove the discharge to open ground.

    Water butts will be the easiest as building a soak pit requires digging, filling of graded stone etc

    Soakpits are generally to BRE Digest 365.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    Thanks. My wife is against the water butts because they'd obstruct the path around the house.

    Do you need planning permission to put in a soakpit for this type of water?

    Would it be worth putting in a pipe leading away from the house that just terminates in soil?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Thanks. My wife is against the water butts because they'd obstruct the path around the house.

    Do you need planning permission to put in a soakpit for this type of water?

    Would it be worth putting in a pipe leading away from the house that just terminates in soil?

    I would say no Planning is required under Class 6 of the Exempted Development Regulations.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭monseiur


    You are completely over thinking this. Fit a 4'' gulley/trap under down pipe and run a length or two of pipe from gulley, just follow the gradient/fall from the house. If you have some pebbles/small stones dig a hole where pipe terminates and fill with the stones. This will act as a soakway and stop grass, muck etc. clogging up pipe, the aforementioned gulley under down pipe will serve the same purpose.
    4'' corrie pipe will do, it's cheaper and more flexible than say Wavin etc.
    You may have to cut a trench in foot path from down pipe outlet to accommodate pipe and a trench thru lawn - great exercise to work off the excesses of Christmas :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    Well looking at it again it did go somewhere. There is a pipe. But the trench for drainage from the new patio is lower than that, so the builder decided to dig a big hole right at the corner of the house instead. So now the gully no longer goes somewhere because he dug out where it had connected to the pipe.

    Not technically lying. "Your gully doesn't go anywhere" was true, just incomplete. He left out the bit that if didn't go anywhere because he broke it.

    The problem is that from a couple of feet from the house there is a slope up to about a metre and a half, so a lot more digging involved to install a new soakpit properly.


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