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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    The article wouldn't open for me so I can't get the full context of the quote, but I don't believe Julian de Spáinn was saying that people shouldn't use those phrases.

    I think the problem is that people are still struggling to learn those phrases in Secondary School when they should have mastered them in Junior Infants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭Upforthematch


    Here's a better link.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/minister-receives-petition-over-irish-language-education-policy-1.4113755?mode=amp

    Ya those comments are not about the phrases themselves but about the lack of progression ... when some learners are hearing the same stuff years later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Aufbau


    Thanks, that makes sense. I suppose I jumped to conclusions as it's quite a while since I actually spoke any Irish. I had a far better grounding in Irish in primary school them my children had. I think it's down to the proliferation of active learning methods and extra subject matter. Also I think there's a much greater acceptance of low attainment. Mind you, they enjoyed their schooling more than I did mine!


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