SUNDAY December 8th

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Dec 8

3.15 Kelso -
CHOSEN FLAME 8/1 PP , BF Sportsbook

Gavin "shels"

Will anything beat Min in the John Durken? Personally can't see anything getting past him.

famagusta

Gavin shels wrote:

Will anything beat Min in the John Durken? Personally can't see anything getting past him.

Probably not but it's good to see Percy back, we'll hopefully see him on the track a bit more this year

CheltenhamJ

Fag an bealach at Cork for me

MaxBet

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

Will anything beat Min in the John Durken? Personally can't see anything getting past him.

It’s Min’s to lose isn’t it . I’d probably be looking at Real Steel or Shattered Love at the prices though

supremenovice

I think Hardline each way at 50s is a huge price.Back to his best trip, likes the ground and has won at the course.
Anibale Fly and Snow Falcon are shorter in the market but he can outrun them here and Duc des Genievres is probably the worst Arkle winner in years. Min should win but 10/1 to finish in top 3 is a shout.

IAMAMORON

Looking forward to watching the racing at Kelso when the Punchestown races are on all afternoon. Should be deadly. Split screen chunts.

I tell you the board of the HRI need to be taken away and proper questions need to be asked. It is a disgrace.

howareyakid

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

Will anything beat Min in the John Durken? Personally can't see anything getting past him.

Would be great to see Presenting Percy back to his best to really mount a challenge. Think it’ll be a race to watch though. Looking forward to it!

IAMAMORON

howareyakid wrote: »

Would be great to see Presenting Percy back to his best to really mount a challenge. Think it’ll be a race to watch though. Looking forward to it!

You better whip out your binoculars if you fancy watching it, because I have no doubt the commentary is going to be Scottish and on anther racecourse.

Looking forward to watching the last 3 fences and not seing any of the horses being paraded beforehand. € 30 a month my fooooking hole.

IAMAMORON

Some lovely pre analysis there of the Peterborough chase, thanks guys.

Don't bother showing the Grade 1 runners in Ireland.

It is disgusting, whoever got the envelope in the HRI deserves to be whipped.

abarkie

Why is Punchestown late off?

Gavin "shels"

Split screen shambles

Brock Turnpike

supremenovice wrote: »

I think Hardline each way at 50s is a huge price.Back to his best trip, likes the ground and has won at the course.
Anibale Fly and Snow Falcon are shorter in the market but he can outrun them here and Duc des Genievres is probably the worst Arkle winner in years. Min should win but 10/1 to finish in top 3 is a shout.

Great shout.

IAMAMORON

supremenovice wrote: »

I think Hardline each way at 50s is a huge price.Back to his best trip, likes the ground and has won at the course.
Anibale Fly and Snow Falcon are shorter in the market but he can outrun them here and Duc des Genievres is probably the worst Arkle winner in years. Min should win but 10/1 to finish in top 3 is a shout.

Great shout, and very unlucky.

Gavin "shels"

supremenovice wrote: »

I think Hardline each way at 50s is a huge price.Back to his best trip, likes the ground and has won at the course.
Anibale Fly and Snow Falcon are shorter in the market but he can outrun them here and Duc des Genievres is probably the worst Arkle winner in years. Min should win but 10/1 to finish in top 3 is a shout.

What a shout! Happy with Mins run

IAMAMORON

If I see any of those HRI scumbags up around Leopardstown at Christmas I am letting them know. It is disgusting. Shame on them.

supremenovice

Thanks lads! Im delighted and sick at the same time. Few quid for the Christmas shopping anyway.

supremenovice

supremenovice wrote: »

I think Hardline each way at 50s is a huge price.Back to his best trip, likes the ground and has won at the course.
Anibale Fly and Snow Falcon are shorter in the market but he can outrun them here and Duc des Genievres is probably the worst Arkle winner in years. Min should win but 10/1 to finish in top 3 is a shout.

Super pick

John.Icy

Jesus that jump at the last by Min was ridiculous.

ON ZEE BRIDLE

I've been given Brigadier Bob in the last at Huntingdon 5/1 win

BumperD

ON ZEE BRIDLE wrote: »

I've been given Brigadier Bob in the last at Huntingdon 5/1 win

3’s out to 11/2....

RivetingRoger

Well happy with Percy. Well happy. Awful for sínoria
Racing TV a sham
Lydia Hislop on twitter trying to defend it

BumperD

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Looking forward to watching the racing at Kelso when the Punchestown races are on all afternoon. Should be deadly. Split screen chunts.

I tell you the board of the HRI need to be taken away and proper questions need to be asked. It is a disgrace.

Christmas Leopardstown/Limerick will be carnage tv wise

Gavin "shels"

Horrible news from Cork about Sinoria

BumperD

Gavin shels wrote: »

Horrible news from Cork about Sinoria

Yeah you could tell by rachels reaction after the fall that it was not good

ON ZEE BRIDLE

BumperD wrote: »

3’s out to 11/2....

Yeah drift said it all

RivetingRoger

BumperD wrote: »

Christmas Leopardstown/Limerick will be carnage tv wise

Will be on terrestrial tv

SonOfGoat

USA bet. 6.17 @ Aqueduct, Pauseforthecause. Around even money. The horse won't win this evening. My strongest bet of the year so far, 100% lay bet. I've had a barrow load on the lay and I reckon the betfair traders will back it to bring the price down shorter. Horse won't win

Morgans

SonOfGoat wrote: »

My strongest bet of the year so far.

December 8th.

BumperD

Morgans wrote: »

December 8th.

Haha haha:) that’s just brilliant

antietam

Just studies say bull****ter Utd are losing big time.Study says Idiot's are complete losers.Please can losers correct me jazus the facts say this site is staggering incompetence..

Gavin "shels"

antietam wrote: »

Just studies say bull****ter Utd are losing big time.Study says Idiot's are complete losers.Please can losers correct me jazus the facts say this site is staggering incompetence..

I remember my first beer... :pac:

antietam

antietam wrote: »

Just studies say bull****ter Utd are losing big time.Study says Idiot's are complete losers.Please can losers correct me jazus the facts say this site is staggering incompetence..

The beautiful people need not reply but thick ****ed morons you're Farage wanker Idiopathic slant of fact.

4068ac1elhodqr

SonOfGoat wrote: »

USA bet. 6.17 @ Aqueduct, Pauseforthecause. Around even money. The horse won't win this evening. My strongest bet of the year so far, 100% lay bet. I've had a barrow load on the lay and I reckon the betfair traders will back it to bring the price down shorter. Horse won't win

100% Won:

Gringo180

antietam wrote: »

Just studies say bull****ter Utd are losing big time.Study says Idiot's are complete losers.Please can losers correct me jazus the facts say this site is staggering incompetence..

Are you the Zodiac Killer?

Gringo180

IAMAMORON wrote: »

If I see any of those HRI scumbags up around Leopardstown at Christmas I am letting them know. It is disgusting. Shame on them.

What happened?

IAMAMORON

antietam wrote: »

The beautiful people need not reply but thick ****ed morons you're Farage wanker Idiopathic slant of fact.

Thanks for sharing.

antietam

Gringo180 wrote: »

Are you the Zodiac Killer?

Believe it or not I was structure Engineering in Northern California at that time,you may have av found me out.

antietam

Gringo180 wrote: »

Are you the Zodiac Killer?

Believe it or not I was structure Engineering in Northern California at that time,you may have av found me out.

antietam

Gringo180 wrote: »

Are you the Zodiac Killer?

Believe it or not I was structure Engineering in Northern California at that time,you may have av found me out.

Morgans

If there ever was one thread to sum up a forum.

The Mig

SonOfGoat wrote: »

USA bet. 6.17 @ Aqueduct, Pauseforthecause. Around even money. The horse won't win this evening. My strongest bet of the year so far, 100% lay bet. I've had a barrow load on the lay and I reckon the betfair traders will back it to bring the price down shorter. Horse won't win

MyStubbleItches

antietam wrote: »

Believe it or not I was structure Engineering in Northern California at that time,you may have av found me out.

And upon reading this I believed in Jesus. And Jesus wept.

IAMAMORON

Gringo180 wrote: »

What happened?

Somebody somewhere thought it would be a good idea to sell the Irish television racing rights to Racing UK. The result has been a devalued television service for punters in Ireland.

If I know anything about anything the board, who would have essentially brokered any deal with RUK, obviously did not consider this when they sold the rights to RUK. I am not even going to begin to speculate what other incentives were on the table. But nothing would surprise me.

Accusations aside, it is the punter who suffers. When ATR had the contract we would have had access to the parade ring and uninterrupted coverage of all the Irish racing today. We would have seen a lot more interviews and seen a lot more horses. Instead we paid second fiddle with split screens and vague UK ramblings from UK pundits, who don't realty care, some more vocally than other. The current coverage is a shambles.

antietam

Have we seen the best bumper horse yet ??????

abarkie

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Somebody somewhere thought it would be a good idea to sell the Irish television racing rights to Racing UK. The result has been a devalued television service for punters in Ireland.

If I know anything about anything the board, who would have essentially brokered any deal with RUK, obviously did not consider this when they sold the rights to RUK. I am not even going to begin to speculate what other incentives were on the table. But nothing would surprise me.

Accusations aside, it is the punter who suffers. When ATR had the contract we would have had access to the parade ring and uninterrupted coverage of all the Irish racing today. We would have seen a lot more interviews and seen a lot more horses. Instead we paid second fiddle with split screens and vague UK ramblings from UK pundits, who don't realty care, some more vocally than other. The current coverage is a shambles.

Wasn't Punchestown due off at 1.50 but didn't go off until 2.01?

Off races times look to be :

1220 off 1221
1250 off 1255
120 off 131

Why was this.

To me this is what caused the issue.

It doesn't matter what channel they are on, the clash would still have happened in race times.

There was a delay after Davy Russell fell ill in the parade ring just before the 1-20 race. It had a knock on effect essentially delaying the following races.

IAMAMORON

abarkie wrote: »

Wasn't Punchestown due off at 1.50 but didn't go off until 2.01?

Off races times look to be :

1220 off 1221
1250 off 1255
120 off 131

Why was this.

To me this is what caused the issue.

It doesn't matter what channel they are on, the clash would still have happened in race times.

Given the schedule any delays were irrelevant. They are still cramming 4 race meetings into 1 television program. To the detriment of all race meetings. There was always going to be a problem.

My point is that the HRI are gangsters. They are lucky the FAI are under so much scrutiny at the minute. I would love to see what would happen if the HRI were under the microscope. Look at what happens anytime racing gets investigated, the whole industry clams up like a hedgehog.

Punters are keeping this sport above ground, they deserve more respect.

1) Published Photo Finishes
2) Documented Stewards Enquiries, published.
3) Drug test results, published.
4) Declared Pace Setters
5) Introduction of Non trier legislation, how did an Arkle winner finish 23 lengths second last and a Gold Cup runner up finish 60 lengths tailed off ? It is a racket.
6) In season and/or in foal declarations to be published on the race card. Punters should not have be sniffing the ground for every trainer interview to establish if a filly is ready or not to race.

It is not good enough to be winking and nudging and patronising punters week in week out.

It goes right to the top of the sport. A gang of fat cats wearing suits and living off corporate dinners, 52 weeks a year. They will be finalising their Christmas hamper list this week before the Christmas dinners kick in. They will be getting all the inside nods and winks for the Christmas triers and what is getting eased off before Cheltenham.

In the meantime some marketing executive is getting a grilling to prep them for why the Friday night at the Curragh is a fooking disaster even though it is a half hours drive from the countries Capital city....

They are a gang of arseholes.