An Taoiseach Michael Martin

Bee Free

6 months from now Michael Martin will be the Taoiseach. How does that make you feel?

Beechwoodspark

More capable that the current gobsh1te

KWAG2019

The FG bots are upon us! We are doomed! Doomed!

Don Joe

You spelled his name wrong..

It's A-s-s-h-o-l-e Martin

Cee-Jay-Cee

He can’t do any worse than the current wanker so yeah why not. Leo has really fcuked up in recent months, he has shown himself to be completely toothless and only concerned with optics rather than doing what is right. I can’t stand him and the sooner he goes the better.

Asitis2019

I think this is a deliberate ploy on the part of FG...it allows them to attack M.Martin and FF and what they would bring us back to, and it diverts attention from the incompetence that is Murphy and Harris. Its an election ploy. It may also being used to trigger a heave in FF in advance of an election.

My guess is that we will have a February election. The next no confidence motion will be on Harris, and will probably occur the third or fourth week of January. If at that stage the finance and social welfare bills are passed, I would imagine Leo will request a dissolution. They may also do so pre-emptively.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

He can’t do any worse than the current wanker so yeah why not. Leo has really fcuked up in recent months, he has shown himself to be completely toothless and only concerned with optics rather than doing what is right. I can’t stand him and the sooner he goes the better.

Oh, there can always be worse!

Leo, for all his faults, hasn't bankrupted the country!

o1s1n

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

.. and only concerned with optics

Is it just me or are we soon to reach critical mass in the use of the word 'optics' in this fashion?

Must be the fifth time I've heard it today and nobody was talking about scopes or binoculars.

dxhound2005

The worst FF leader in history. He reduced them from a 40% plus party to 17%, and when he managed to get that up to 24% in the following election the media made him out to be some sort of genius. When he was Minister for Health he tripled spending, but still left the Department in a worse state than when he took over.

You can only judge people by their actions and results, and he is a serial failure.

Strumms

I’m not a fan of Leo, either as a person or as a Taoiseach, Martin seems more genuine, more trustworthy, less of a PR show, less Mr Soundbite... but as regards having real ‘leadership’ quality... I’d worry there.

ArchXStanton

" backward looking idea of sovereignty" - Micheal Martin

He can fook off to Brussels with himself

touts

For all their faults I think there is a bit of humility about what's left of Fianna Fail. I suppose 10 years of shame will do that to you. And that puts them ahead of the current brat-pack in the government. I'll take humility over the young entitled elitest pack we have now. Leo, Harris, O'Connell, Murphy and Co are everything Ross-O'Carroll-Kelly books have been warning us about for years.

beejee

It's basically one of those fake wrestling matches by now.

Oh no, the housing crisis just did a triple-suplex wonder hammer on team A's head! Gonna feel that in the morning!

But wait! What's this?! Team A is crawling across the canvas and, and... I can't believe this is happening!! They just tagged in team B!

Team B comes roaring across the ring, so much energy and promise to fulfill.... But what's this?! Oh my gawd! The HSE just performed a perfect clothesline on team B, THEY'RE OUT FOR THE COUNT! Unless, unless....oh Lord above, they've managed to tag in team A again!

Here comes team A, rested and rarin' for the fight, but wait!!!..

And so on and so forth.

Michael varadkar, Enda Martin...its all a show, and one is as useful as the other.

Junkyard Tom

FF (_)_) FG

Two cheeks. Same arse.

punisher5112

We need a new president too....

These self entitled gobsheens get these positions and have never lived in the real world or know the concept of work ...

We need someone that will tell it for what it is.

People at the protest stating it's a human right for every single person to have their own house for example even refugees, those in centres etc....

How the feck could we really actually house all these in their own home.... Costs would be eye watering...

TheValeyard

The same Michael Martin involved with Bertie, Cowen, denials of the IMF/Troika, that guy?

Stacksofwacks

On a personal level he seems a lot likeable and engaging than Leo, certainly would not be up his own backside as much, would make a grand Taoiseach I'd imagine, just a bland status quo type politician really, haven't got much to say about him other than that.

Brexit is what has saved Varadkar, and in fairness he, Coveney and McEntee have done well in that respect. FG's failures on domestic issues should be low hanging fruit for the main opposition party.....but when that party is supporting the minority government in confidence and supply, any criticism from them rings very hollow.

Martin seems like a pleasant enough man and I don't think he's corrupt in the style of Haughey and Ahern. However he was still part of the FF government that bankrupted the country, had a poor record as Minister for Health and has given tacit support to all of FG's fúckups for the past few years so I don't think he deserves to be Taoiseach.

Feisar

I don't vote as it's irrelevant whichever clown is foisted upon us. We are a small open economy on the fringes of Europe and currently playing the game regarding tax with the US corporations. Our local politics are pretty much irrelevant.

Feisar

Deleted User wrote: »

Brexit is what has saved Varadkar, and in fairness he, Coveney and McEntee have done well in that respect. FG's failures on domestic issues should be low hanging fruit for the main opposition party.....but when that party is supporting the minority government in confidence and supply, any criticism from them rings very hollow.

Martin seems like a pleasant enough man and I don't think he's corrupt in the style of Haughey and Ahern. However he was still part of the FF government that bankrupted the country, had a poor record as Minister for Health and has given tacit support to all of FG's fúckups for the past few years so I don't think he deserves to be Taoiseach.

How have FG failed on domestic issues?

ILoveYourVibes

I don't know how it makes me feel but Michael Martin is ****ting himself about it.

Quantum Erasure

cant be much worse than the current lot

ILoveYourVibes

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

cant be much worse than the current lot

It can always be worse.

Quantum Erasure

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

It can always be worse.

that should be Fine Gael's new slogan

Strumms

punisher5112 wrote: »

We need a new president too....

These self entitled gobsheens get these positions and have never lived in the real world or know the concept of work ...

We need someone that will tell it for what it is.

People at the protest stating it's a human right for every single person to have their own house for example even refugees, those in centres etc....

How the feck could we really actually house all these in their own home.... Costs would be eye watering...

100%...

So I and every other right thinking person can get our heads down, be patient, work, save and sacrifice in order to provide a home for ourselves, taking years of hard work, toil, sacrifice on not only our behalf but families too...

Yet people who DONT work, DONT contribute and the greatest exertion they have is getting the bus for free to collect their welfare for free get G I V E N
a free home and WILL continue to extend their hands for free....

E V E R Y T H I N G ! ! ! !

as long as they are living and breathing...

Jinglejangle69

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

cant be much worse than the current lot

This article is from 2010 showing how FIANNA FAIL wasted 10 billion of tax payers money.

More than €1bn of taxpayers' money has been wasted every year since Fianna Fail came to power 10 years ago, a Sunday Independent investigation reveals.

We can show that since Fianna Failtook office a decade ago, more than €1bn of taxpayers' money has been wasted annually.

A list of failed projects, delayed works, bloated bureaucracy and poor management have all led to more than €10bn being squandered in the last 10 years.

Taxpayers' money has been squandered by every Government department including €100m on the abandoned Stadium Campus Ireland project, the €471m overrun on the Luas, the €150m overspend on the Port Tunnel, as well as almost a €1bn wasted on the Government's botched de-centralisation policy.


Apart from the overspends and underestimation in the cost of the Port Tunnel and the two Luas lines that don't link up, and the chaos that is the M50, Ireland's road building projects since 1997 have collectively cost €3.2bn more than what was originally forecast, according to our figures.

Opposition parties, hospital patient groups and leading economists have said that institutional waste during a time of plenty and the failure to deliver a first world infrastructure is endangering Ireland's competitiveness internationally.

One of the key areas is the health service. Its funding has increased from €3.2bn in 1997 to almost €13bn this year. Despite this massive injection since 1997, the Health Service Executive, which employs 70,000 people and 36,000 indirectly, is now closing wards and has introduced a freeze on new employees.

The closure of a 10-bed ward in Nenagh hospital is just one of a number of high-profile ward shutdowns in recent weeks. The Irish Patients Association has said cuts and ward closures currently being enforced by the HSE are unforgivable.

Steve McMahon of the Irish Patients Association said: "It is an organisation rife with institutionalised bureaucracy. When they formed the HSE in 2005 they should have introduced a redundancy package and cleared their ranks.



Some people here saying FIANNA FÁIL don’t overspend!!!!!!!!

Fann Linn

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Oh, there can always be worse!

Leo, for all his faults, hasn't bankrupted the country!

Eeh Childrens Hospital, Broadband Plan. Rebuilt schools.
He's making a good job of it.

Dank Janniels

Em didnt Fianna Fáil drive us into the iceberg 10years ago?

No sorry everything is Fine Gaels fault etc etc

Bee Free

Bee Free wrote: »

6 months from now Michael Martin will be the Taoiseach. How does that make you feel?

SafeSurfer

What many people seem to forget is the the Green Party were coalition partners with FF from 2007 to 2011. They seem to be given a free pass on their role in the crash because the economy isn’t really their thing. They would much rather focus on their forte of climate change etc.

Varadkar has been a disappointing Taoiseach. Uninspiring as a leader and lacking in vision. A vacuous leader focused on spin and photo ops. Coveney seems much more assured, sincere and competent although he is another member of the aloof establishment.

Has there ever been a cabinet with more privately educated members?
It’s no wonder they are out of touch.

ILoveYourVibes

Dank Janniels wrote: »

Em didnt Fianna Fáil drive us into the iceberg 10years ago?

No sorry everything is Fine Gaels fault etc etc

Fianna Fail KNOWINGLY drove us to the Iceberg. Fine Gael made sure the wealthy had life boats and threw everyone else overboard.

Life didn't change for the people who lost millions by their own hand. It sure changed for those who were vulnerable at the bottom.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Fann Linn wrote: »

Eeh Childrens Hospital, Broadband Plan. Rebuilt schools.
He's making a good job of it.

Better or worse than Bertie allowing the bankers to make their own rules?

wandererz

Don Joe wrote: »

You spelled his name wrong..

It's A-s-s-h-o-l-e Martin

No. Not at all. I don't see how. And you are wrong too.

It's me hole.

the beer revolu

I have never voted FF but I have a begrudging respect for Martin for the smoking ban.
It was, genuinely, politically brave. Almost everyone was against it yet he pushed ahead with it because it was the right thing to do. There were no vested interests pushing it.

But, no, please let's not have FF in power again.

jobeenfitz

That's the problem. Do ya stick with this shower or do ya go back to the last crowd who wrecked the place?

So I think it does not matter. No other party can get the numbers to get a majority.

So we may get to pick who is the smaller coalition party.

I still think this doesn't matter because their all out for themselves.

Money and power is all they care about.

A very high percentage are bluffers.

The system is broken, maybe even democracy is broken. Its hopeless.

maccored

i think it typifies the problem. a few years back apparently FF were dead in the water, now that no-one wants FG, its FF's turn. They should both just join up and be the one party

Idbatterim

Ff as bad as they are, didn’t exactly plan the bust. Fg have been in power nine years and are trying to turn the working people ( that they lied about representing) into life long serfs to benefit their overlords. Morally corrupt !

Sonics2k

He's a rat.

People are putting on serious rose-tinted glasses and are forgetting just how much havoc the man caused himself, his direct involvement in FF before the crash.

He's a contrarian who'll say what he likes now to try and get votes in the GE and then turn on them in a moment.

I personally know the man. He's a rat and he doesn't care.

suicide_circus

irishgeo

FF will just ruin the country again. Probably get a free pass for a while blaming FG for the mess. Then the same old **** will be out in force. Scandals, tax payer money wasted, friends appointed to govt jobs who are not qualified. Then give away budgets and then the **** hits the fan.

We will never learn.

Huntergonzo

I can't wait till Micheal Martin becomes Prime Minister, I have no doubt that from that very moment all our lives will improve immeasurably.

Have to say though, time appears to be a great healer, either that or people have very short memories, I will never consider the following partys for a vote:

1. FF - caused the worst crash in the history of the state, to forget this is embarrassingly irrespponsible.

2. SF - Gerry was never in the IRA you know, I think you should get free mental health care if you trust these charlatans, they're the worst of the worst!

3. FG - for all the lies they told in opposition and back tracking they done when they landed in Government.

4. Labour - see FG

5. Social Democrats - head cases, plus what ever happened to Stephen 'ping pong' Donnelly and which party will he join next week, stay tuned to find out.

6. Renua or Aontú - I'd rather we didn't return to Archbishop McQuaid's Ireland.

7. Any of the loony left partys ie - PBP, AAA, Socialist Party etc

8. Green Party - I have no intentions of eating a steak made from fúckin plants!

....think that about leaves me with the Healy Raes, may move to Kerry so :-)

Boggles

I imagine Leo is bored with it all anyway, another tick on his life goals chart.

Simon will be handed the reigns and it will be back to serious business, would catch that man with novelty socks on.

I've been called a Fine Gael bot on here before.

However, the Rural Broadband was the moment that I thought FG have been in power for too long. It was/is a ridiculous decision.

I do have sympathy in general for FG, running such a weak government is a thankless task. But, I don't think FF will do a much worse job.

I'll probably waste my vote and vote Labour.

jam_mac_jam

Yes it can and will be much worse under FF. They completely ****ed this country over. Has everyone forgotten. The country was a laughing stock.

Kimbot

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