HOV lane along M50, N7, N4 etc.

JeffK88

The M50 is reaching peak traffic again and some the roads Dublin bound are very congested would HOV lanes help. If an HOV lane was created from Rathcoole along the N7. The M50 could also do with at least attempting to install some instead further widening of normal running lanes. Although enforcement might prove troublesome. What do people think?

satguy

It would be very very hard to police. So would be a non starter in my book.

Markcheese

satguy wrote: »

It would be very very hard to police. So would be a non starter in my book.

How's it policed in the states?
( I knew a guy that used to hitch hike near the golden gate bridge.. He never had a problem getting a lift because cars wanted to use the HO lane,
(but considering we're not even great at policing bus lanes...)

JeffK88

Markcheese wrote: »

How's it policed in the states?
( I knew a guy that used to hitch hike near the golden gate bridge.. He never had a problem getting a lift because cars wanted to use the HO lane,
(but considering we're not even great at policing bus lanes...)

Think they use cameras and such. If it TII and the Gardaí were able to jointly monitor it with heavy fines to discourage abusers it might work. Something needs to be done about the N7 though especially the stupidly designed junctions between Newlands Cross, Luas P&R & M50. The best place to currently trail it would be on the M4 considering they are adding an extra lane.

loyatemu

if they can't keep cars out of the bus lanes I wouldn't hold out much hope for HOV lanes.

An interesting experiment would be the alternating odd/even number plate system they've introduced in some cities; effectively forcing people to carpool.

markpb

Markcheese wrote: »

How's it policed in the states?

Many police departments in America actually enforce moving violations. AGS, as a rule, don't bother because road traffic violations are seen as victim-less crimes or because socially we accept that breaking traffic law or because the guards feel (rightly or wrongly) that they have more important things to do.

is_that_so

HOV??

marno21

is_that_so wrote: »

HOV??

High occupancy vehicle. Basically carpool lanes. Usually 2+ people per car.

The fines (in California anyway) are a fairly reasonable deterrent.

Jayuu

OSI wrote: »

High Occupancy Vehicle. Often called a carpooling lane.

Frequently see people using the hard shoulder to skip a few kms worth of tailbacks on the M3 so I'm not sure how we can expect people to respect a HOV lane.

Quite simple. Enforcement!


I don't understand in this day and age why cameras can't be put on lanes that would be high quality enough to catch people doing this or driving in bus lanes. A few weeks of a vigorous enforcement regime and a huge amount of fines and people would learn to respect the rules. And for those few those that don't they would continue to be fined so if they want to pay for flouting the rules then let them.

Markcheese

Jayuu wrote: »

Quite simple. Enforcement!


I don't understand in this day and age why cameras can't be put on lanes that would be high quality enough to catch people doing this or driving in bus lanes. A few weeks of a vigorous enforcement regime and a huge amount of fines and people would learn to respect the rules. And for those few those that don't they would continue to be fined so if they want to pay for flouting the rules then let them.

Bus lanes and hard hard shoulders are dead easy ,just take a pic of every vehicle and let anpr do the rest ,maybe 2 cameras to stop idiots tail gating a bus ...
In Australia they're using software to recognise someone texting ,but it'd be easy enough to have a person watching several cameras,and just forward the pic of the phone user to the guards ..

Limerick74

“ Blow-up dolls, shop mannequins and dogs dressed up as children have all been used in Auckland to try and justify driving in lanes where vehicles are required to have at least three occupants.”

IsaacWunder

I think there’s only a handful of those lanes in the UK. Our roads are more similar to theirs than the 14 lane mega motorways you see in the US where taking one lane would have less impact. Would be no harm to trial it, but I fear it will just create more congestion as it would be a 33% cut in capacity in the M50 in practical terms, a road we spent a fortune widening only a decade ago.