Landcruiser wave

ganmo

Wheter I'm on the roads locally or further afield I half expect to know everyone I see driving a landcruiser.

I can't be the only one that ends up waving at every landcruiser i meet

Jb1989

ganmo wrote: »

Wheter I'm on the roads locally or further afield I half expect to know everyone I see driving a landcruiser.

I can't be the only one that ends up waving at every landcruiser i meet

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patsy_mccabe

When I got the Landcruiser first, I couldn't believe it. Everyone else I passed in a Lancruiser waved. I thought it was some secret sect at first, like the stomemasons or something. :rolleyes:

Millionaire only not

I’m driving them with 20 years .
No one had them when I started first now there just everywhere !
And down here they all buy black 🙄
Great machine in fairness need a bomb to kill them .

liosnagceann75

Millionaire only not wrote: »

I’m driving them with 20 years .
No one had them when I started first now there just everywhere !
And down here they all buy black 🙄
Great machine in fairness need a bomb to kill them .

Mainly all silver around me including my own. Test tomorrow

patsy_mccabe

Anyone having problems with rust underneath?

wrangler

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Anyone having problems with rust underneath?

some 2000 TO 2005 LCs are prone to chassis rust

Albert Johnson

wrangler wrote: »

some 2000 TO 2005 LCs are prone to chassis rust

I thought it was more of a problem after the change in body type in 2003? I had a 02 lwb cruiser and the chassis was still rock solid when I traded it during the summer. Having looked at a few 05-08 examples I thought they were far more prone to rusting than the older models. There was 4 mid 2000's cruiser's at my mechanics garage one day and they all looked good clean jeeps with varying milage. He (my mechanic) knew I was thinking of changing jeep and said to take a look underneath them and sure enough they were all well rotten with a 07 model having been welded already.

wrangler

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I thought it was more of a problem after the change in body type in 2003? I had a 02 lwb cruiser and the chassis was still rock solid when I traded it during the summer. Having looked at a few 05-08 examples I thought they were far more prone to rusting than the older models. There was 4 mid 2000's cruiser's at my mechanics garage one day and they all looked good clean jeeps with varying milage. He (my mechanic) knew I was thinking of changing jeep and said to take a look underneath them and sure enough they were all well rotten with a 07 model having been welded already.

A neighbour changed from a rusty 2000 to a 2005 as he was advised to, if you're right he's gone from bad to worse

1373

My mechanic bought a hi-ace and said every “traveling salesman “ waved him

Albert Johnson

wrangler wrote: »

A neighbour changed from a rusty 2000 to a 2005 as he was advised to, if you're right he's gone from bad to worse

I'm far from an authority on the matter but it's something I've kept an eye on since first being told. There's a world of 97 to 02 models on the road locally and they seem in better shape than many of the 03 to 08 model's as regards rust and general wear and tear. The biggest problem is even a 05 jeep is now 15 years old for the difference and will be getting rough around the edges. Has anyone much experience with the first of the newer shape model? I think there around since 2010/11 and should be getting plentiful second hand.

blue5000

ganmo wrote: »

Wheter I'm on the roads locally or further afield I half expect to know everyone I see driving a landcruiser.

I can't be the only one that ends up waving at every landcruiser i meet

Landrover drivers do it too, but it's more of a sympathetic wave, like 'I know the pain you're going through buddy':D

whelan2

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Anyone having problems with rust underneath?

My dad has a 00 old style . He got the chassis done a few weeks ago.

Odelay

whelan2 wrote: »

My dad has a 00 old style . He got the chassis done a few weeks ago.

Was it welded or parts replaced?
If welded did he have to get an engineers cert?
I’m thinking of buying a tidy 04 one I have my eye on....

emaherx

ganmo wrote: »

Wheter I'm on the roads locally or further afield I half expect to know everyone I see driving a landcruiser.

I can't be the only one that ends up waving at every landcruiser i meet

I'm a Land Rover driver, we've been doing it since before it was cool

whelan2

Odelay wrote: »

Was it welded or parts replaced?
If welded did he have to get an engineers cert?
I’m thinking of buying a tidy 04 one I have my eye on....

Welded and got an engineers cert. Had to replace the diesel tank too, which had to come off to do the work

emaherx

whelan2 wrote: »

Welded and got an engineers cert. Had to replace the diesel tank too, which had to come off to do the work

We've been doing that since before it was cool too

Marlow

emaherx wrote: »

I'm a Land Rover driver, we've been doing it since before it was cool

I drive Surf, Delica, Defender, Disco and VW T4 Syncro .. VW bus and Defender drivers are probably the ones at it the longest

/M

Say my name

emaherx wrote: »

I'm a Land Rover driver, we've been doing it since before it was cool

Do you feel lonely?

emaherx

Say my name wrote: »

Do you feel lonely?

Never, it's great craic picking lumps of drive shaft off of the road, always guaranteed to meet new friends with defenders who not only wave but will actually stop and help you put it back together and on some occasions actually have the nessacery spare parts to get you you going again in case you've forgotten yours! It'd never happen with a Toyota

whelan2

emaherx wrote: »

We've been doing that since before it was cool too

Before he bought the jeep in August he got the mechanic to lift up the jeep and check the chassis. He said it was fine. 6 weeks later it failed the doe on the chassis

emaherx

whelan2 wrote: »

Before he bought the jeep in August he got the mechanic to lift up the jeep and check the chassis. He said it was fine. 6 weeks later it failed the doe on the chassis

Some DOE centers are going to town bashing the crap out of chassis looking for weaknesses, if they can't find any they'll sure as hell knock enough paint of to create some for next time.

Waffletraktor

emaherx wrote: »

Never, it's great craic picking lumps of drive shaft off of the road, always guaranteed to meet new friends with defenders who not only wave but will actually stop and help you put it back together and on some occasions actually have the nessacery spare parts to get you you going again in case you've forgotten yours! It'd never happen with a Toyota

You can rely on a land rover to get you where you need to be, getting home's more of a land cruiser thing.

emaherx

Waffletraktor wrote: »

You can rely on a land rover to get you where you need to be, getting home's more of a land cruiser thing.

We've had both here, similar years and mileage but the Landcruiser was retired after Dad died it was a lot more tired for it's years with electrical Gremlins starting to creep in everywhere the doors alone were an issue with window motors slow, central locking that had a mind of its own mirrors folded in or out when the engine was started. The Defender has no such issues . It's only not gotten me home twice since 2004. ( It's had nearly the entire drive train replaced over the years but it's gotten me home most of the time.)

st1979

I was told by a foreign lad who loves land rovers so much he was even in one of the land rovers magazines, that the reason land rovers driver's wave to each other is to show your clean hands.
Look at me clean hands today ie I don't have oil or grease on them from fixing it, yet.

Wildsurfer

All the landcruisers are being replaced by hi-lux in these parts. The seats for the kids are handy I guess

wrangler

Wildsurfer wrote: »

All the landcruisers are being replaced by hi-lux in these parts. The seats for the kids are handy I guess

And the dirty smelly stuff is in a separate area

davidk1394

Wildsurfer wrote: »

All the landcruisers are being replaced by hi-lux in these parts. The seats for the kids are handy I guess

It's a pity their so awkward around towns, trying to park

Albert Johnson

davidk1394 wrote: »

It's a pity their so awkward around towns, trying to park

That's one of the biggest differences I noticed since changing to a pick up from a land cruiser. There both roughly similar in length but the steering lock is far poorer on the pick up.

Millionaire only not

wrangler wrote: »

And the dirty smelly stuff is in a separate area

Tis handy put the kids in the canopy part to keep the seats clean alright!

blue5000

Albert Johnson wrote: »

That's one of the biggest differences I noticed since changing to a pick up from a land cruiser. There both roughly similar in length but the steering lock is far poorer on the pick up.

A member of a certain ethnic minority who called in here said twas like a fukkin train trying to turn it. The lock on the land cruiser is better than the Avensis, I think when the 4wd is on the lock would not be as good. Is the hilux constant 4wd?

greysides

blue5000 wrote: »

A member of a certain ethnic minority who called in here said twas like a fukkin train trying to turn it. The lock on the land cruiser is better than the Avensis, I think when the 4wd is on the lock would not be as good. Is the hilux constant 4wd?

I think I've the same LC as you, trying to gauge how far to stop ahead of the parking space you are going to reverse into is an art I need to develop. Remind me not to buy an Avensis...
I think the Hilux is part time 4WD. A pity.... if I were after a pickup the Mitsubishi has full time 4WD available for on-road use and once I'd learnt not to look at it as I walked to it, I could live with it...

Albert Johnson

blue5000 wrote: »

A member of a certain ethnic minority who called in here said twas like a fukkin train trying to turn it. The lock on the land cruiser is better than the Avensis, I think when the 4wd is on the lock would not be as good. Is the hilux constant 4wd?

Was the travelling salesman referring to a Hilux? Perhaps I was spoilt with the Land cruiser but for a reasonable sized jeep I found it easy to manoeuvre. By constant 4wd I assume that means it's always in 4wd whether on or off road? If so then no but I've a Ford ranger not a Hilux, there's a second gear stick in mine that alternates between 2h, 4h and 4l. However I thought most "proper" jeeps were similar, the newer models have a button or dial instead of a second gear stick but I thought most were only meant to be driven in 2h when on paved roads.

greysides

Albert Johnson wrote: »

...I thought most "proper" jeeps were similar, the newer models have a button or dial instead of a second gear stick but I thought most were only meant to be driven in 2h when on paved roads.

I think that's the usual set up but the LC is like the LR Defender with permanent 4WD on-road. You lock the centre different for off-road use, if needed, and then go into low box, again if needed.
In the snow a few years ago I found the standard set up best for road use as locking the centre different increased my turning circle on corners.
For my purposes, if a vehicle isn't able for permanent 4WD on-road then it isn't for me as that's when I want it. Hence my disappointment with the Hilux.

Albert Johnson

greysides wrote: »

I think that's the usual set up but the LC is like the LR Defender with permanent 4WD on-road. You lock the centre different for off-road use, if needed, and then go into low box, again if needed.
In the snow a few years ago I found the standard set up best for road use as locking the centre different increased my turning circle on corners.
For my purposes, if a vehicle isn't able for permanent 4WD on-road then it isn't for me as that's when I want it. Hence my disappointment with the Hilux.

I didn't know that the land cruiser utilised permanent 4wd but I'm not an authority on the matter. I'd agree that your steering ability is further reduced when the differential is locked, the tyres tend to scrub around as opposed to turning when you've a tight lock on the steering. I can't say I've seen any major disadvantages since changing to the pickup, it's more inclined to spin on hills ect but sticking it in 4wd aids traction. I'm slightly apprehensive as to how it will cope in snowy conditions but time will tell.

Marlow

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I didn't know that the land cruiser utilised permanent 4wd but I'm not an authority on the matter. I'd agree that your steering ability is further reduced when the differential is locked, the tyres tend to scrub around as opposed to turning when you've a tight lock on the steering. I can't say I've seen any major disadvantages since changing to the pickup, it's more inclined to spin on hills ect but sticking it in 4wd aids traction. I'm slightly apprehensive as to how it will cope in snowy conditions but time will tell.

To be honest ... how either of them does in snow or not .. same with mud ... is not down to full-time 4WD or not.

4WD will help you going, but it won't help you braking. If you don't have the right tyres for the environment that you're driving in, then you shouldn't be driving at all. A good set of All-terrains for something like a 4x4 is a minimum.

/M

greysides

Marlowe, I don't disagree with you but my tyre choice is biased to road work. The thread pattern looks reasonable for off-road (Cooper Discoverer AT3) but I had a close call years ago and decided it was less troublesome to be pulled out of a field than the back of the car in front.
I do 20,000+ road miles a year so....

Odelay

Marlow wrote: »

To be honest ... how either of them does in snow or not .. same with mud ... is not down to full-time 4WD or not.

4WD will help you going, but it won't help you braking. If you don't have the right tyres for the environment that you're driving in, then you shouldn't be driving at all. A good set of All-terrains for something like a 4x4 is a minimum.

/M

The four wheel drive in the snow or black ice is preferable to rear wheel drive in such conditions. Then I’m not worried about getting going or braking, I can manage that, it’s the tail slapping around that frightens me on the way to work. For that I want road 4wd or a front wheel drive. I’m too old to entertain rwd in those conditions..

Marlow

greysides wrote: »

Marlowe, I don't disagree with you but my tyre choice is biased to road work. The thread pattern looks reasonable for off-road (Cooper Discoverer AT3) but I had a close call years ago and decided it was less troublesome to be pulled out of a field than the back of the car in front.
I do 20,000+ road miles a year so....

You're sorted with those. They are part of the equation.

And well, no harm doubling up. Just saying one thing won't do without the other.

/M

gozunda

Millionaire only not wrote: »

I’m driving them with 20 years .
No one had them when I started first now there just everywhere !
And down here they all buy black 🙄
Great machine in fairness need a bomb to kill them .

Parked up one night at a meeting there must have been nearly a dozen black ones. One Landcruiser owner even tried to get into someone else's which caused great amusement as he couldnt figure out why it wouldn't unlock. He still gets reminded of it

Odelay

gozunda wrote: »

Parked up one night at a meeting there must have been nearly a dozen black ones. One Landcruiser owner even tried to get into someone else's which caused great amusement as he couldnt figure out why it wouldn't unlock. He still gets reminded of it

Done that myself, looking in the window while unlocking I couldn’t figure out how it was so clean inside....

Albert Johnson

gozunda wrote: »

Parked up one night at a meeting there must have been nearly a dozen black ones. One Landcruiser owner even tried to get into someone else's which caused great amusement as he couldnt figure out why it wouldn't unlock. He still gets reminded of it

A mechanic has a garage beside the local mart and I asked him to put a fuse in my old Land cruiser one day. He was busy so I said I'd leave it outside in the yard and he could do it some time during the day while I was working. Of course it was mart day and the yard was full of jeeps and lorries but I thought nothing of it and left the keys in the ignition for him to sort it in his own time.

He rang me a few hours later giving out that there was no fuse gone and that he'd wasted a half hour rooting at it. I couldn't understand this and went out to him, he had the 2 fuse boards opened and a heap of fuse's and tools strewn throughout the cab. I noticed the problem straight away, it wasn't my jeep, there were 5 similar jeeps immediately outside the garage door and of course he walked to the nearest one which just happened to be left unlocked and the keys in the ignition. Once I'd shown him the correct vehicle he had the fuse changed in seconds, I always thought it lucky I hadn't asked for a new set of tyres or a service.

gozunda

Albert Johnson wrote: »

A mechanic has a garage beside the local mart and I asked him to put a fuse in my old Land cruiser one day. He was busy so I said I'd leave it outside in the yard and he could do it some time during the day while I was working. Of course it was mart day and the yard was full of jeeps and lorries but I thought nothing of it and left the keys in the ignition for him to sort it in his own time.

He rang me a few hours later giving out that there was no fuse gone and that he'd wasted a half hour rooting at it. I couldn't understand this and went out to him, he had the 2 fuse boards opened and a heap of fuse's and tools strewn throughout the cab. I noticed the problem straight away, it wasn't my jeep, there were 5 similar jeeps immediately outside the garage door and of course he walked to the nearest one which just happened to be left unlocked and the keys in the ignition. Once I'd shown him the correct vehicle he had the fuse changed in seconds, I always thought it lucky I hadn't asked for a new set of tyres or a service.

Brilliant - you're lucky you didnt get a new gearbox :pac:

They are great for a bit of old anonymity. That and accidently having the wrong license plate on the trailer...

emaherx

gozunda wrote: »

Brilliant - you're lucky you didnt get a new gearbox :pac:

They are great for a bit of old anonymity. That and accidently having the wrong license plate on the trailer...

Few years ago Dad got a call from the Gardaí about a drive off using his Jeep in Monaghan. It was a about a week after tools were stolen from our workshop they must have copied his plate.

patsy_mccabe

Landcruiser is permanent 4WD with a central diff lock then for use in muddy or slippery snowy conditions. There is an extra high-low selection then. For driving through a normal field you don't even need the lock.

josephsoap

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Landcruiser is permanent 4WD with a central diff lock then for use in muddy or slippery snowy conditions. There is an extra high-low selection then. For driving through a normal field you don't even need the lock.

I often thought it was a pity when selecting the low range they didn’t give you the option of not locking the differential

greysides

josephsoap wrote: »

I often thought it was a pity when selecting the low range they didn’t give you the option of not locking the differential

A Defender has that option.

Marlow

greysides wrote: »

A Defender has that option.

It's mostly a yank thing to have low-box always locked. Most other 4x4's give you the option of being able to choose.

/M

Panch18

I’m not seeing much love for the pajero or L200 on this thread.

Had a couple of pajeros in our time. Had an absolute beauty 1990 jap import I bought up in Kildare second hand from a friends sister, horsey girl. Got 5 great years out of it but then the engine went, it had about 300k on the clock so fair enough . Had it parked up for a bit and was planning on it being a winter project. Came out of the parlour 1 Septembers evening to see it being loaded onto a car trailer, the decking auld fella had sold it for 250 quid to a friend of his who’s son was a mechanic. There were 2 brand new tyres on it that were worth 250 each!!! Well I’ll tell you there was war that evening, and for a few days after. It’s still a touchy subject 10 years on

Had an 98 Pajero then which we got second hand I suppose it was 2009. Grand jeep now but way preferred the 1990 one. Anyway the 98 one failed the DOE about 3 years ago. Rusted back axle. Never got it fixed

Went for a VW caddy van after. Now I wouldn’t go near a field with it but it does the job. And I have to say the running costs are way lower with a van than a jeep. Like I don’t think we could justify going back to a jeep now that we see how cheap the van is to run. Unless we went new with the jeep and then you’re talking big money. Even then the running costs are massive.

Marlow

Panch18 wrote: »

I’m not seeing much love for the pajero or L200 on this thread.

Engine in the L200 are muck. Pajeros only suffer from rust issues .. more than any other 4x4.

I do have a '95 Delica sitting to be sorted out for the other half. Essentially a L400 with all the Pajero running gear including the nicer 2.8 engine. And Delica owners have a wave of their own

/M