The name 'R&B'

Dublin Spur

Why doesn't R&B stand for Rhythm and Blues anymore?

It's now some weird urban down beat rubbish
Why can't these people find their own name for their music?

Muddy Waters must be turning in his grave.

Thelonious Monk

Leadbelly etc must be appalled. It hasn't meant what it used to mean in decades ffs.

sbsquarepants

Just means black these days, that's the long and the short of it!

RobbieTheRobber

Dublin Spur wrote: »

Why doesn't R&B stand for Rhythm and Blues anymore?

It's now some weird urban down beat rubbish
Why can't these people find their own name for their music?

Muddy Waters must be turning in his grave.

I think the wikipedia page on this topic covers the changes quite well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythm_and_blues

RobbieTheRobber

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

I think the wikipedia page on this topic covers the changes quite well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythm_and_blues

The fact that Robin Thicke is considered R&B let's you know how bastardised it has become nowadays.

EmmetSpiceland

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Just means black these days, that's the long and the short of it!

No, you’re thinking of “urban”.

whisky_galore

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

No, you’re thinking of “urban”.

Black people only live in cities?

magic_murph

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Just means black these days, that's the long and the short of it!

So are we saying once you go R&B you'll never go back?

EmmetSpiceland

whisky_galore wrote: »

Black people only live in cities?

“Urban” is the press euphemism for hip hop, R&B, etc.

HorrorScope

magic_murph wrote: »

So are we saying once you go R&B you'll never go back?

Once you go R&B you get loads of gee?

Dublin Spur

the thing is though it's factually incorrect to call this urban mish-mash Rhythm and Blues because that referees to a totally different genre of music

very strange why they didn't come up with their own name for it - creative types that they are.

nullzero

Dublin Spur wrote: »

the thing is though it's factually incorrect to call this urban mish-mash Rhythm and Blues because that referees to a totally different genre of music

very strange why they didn't come up with their own name for it - creative types that they are.

Much like a lot of the music they're making they've sampled a name for the genre as well.

RWCNT

Dublin Spur wrote: »

very strange why they didn't come up with their own name for it - creative types that they are.

Musicians don't usually come up with the names of their supposed genre, that's more the journalists and critics.

Dublin Spur

RWCNT wrote: »

Musicians don't usually come up with the names of their supposed genre, that's more the journalists and critics.

well then those folks were asleep at the wheel at the time - or just lazy

Bobblehats

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

No, you’re thinking of “urban”.

Does this mean that the more eh, edgy subcategories become “suburban”?

Good jib!

The meaning of words change over time, decimate for example no longer only means to kill every one in ten people in a legion.

Ray Palmer

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The fact that Robin Thicke is considered R&B let's you know how bastardised it has become nowadays.

Not really given he is best known for a song that was deemed a Marvin Gaye song.