Responsibilities of farmer or owner

Little voice

Hello,

My family have recently inherited some agricultural land in Ireland that is being leased to a tenant farmer on a conacre agreement. I don't know very much about farming and I've never lived in Ireland so I am rather uncertain of which aspects of maintenance are typically the responsibility of the tenant farmer and which are the responsibility of the owner

e.g.

reseeding

lime

maintaining ditches and fencing

drainage


Any advice (or recommendations of other sites I could use for reference) would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Mooooo

Teagasc are the agri advisory body in Ireland if you wish to contact them.
Generally it would be the tenant would maintain the land, depending on the agreement. However conacre is an 11 month lease, which some seem to roll over year to year no problem, which can mean tenants can be reluctant to invest in lime etc if they may loose the ground the following year.
If you have inherited it it may be more tax efficient to rent it on a long-term lease. This may reduce any inheritance tax you may owe if leased to a qualified farmer and provide tax free income. I'm not sure if that applies to you as you are outside the country but something worth checking out

wrangler

Little voice wrote: »

Hello,

My family have recently inherited some agricultural land in Ireland that is being leased to a tenant farmer on a conacre agreement. I don't know very much about farming and I've never lived in Ireland so I am rather uncertain of which aspects of maintenance are typically the responsibility of the tenant farmer and which are the responsibility of the owner

e.g.

reseeding

lime

maintaining ditches and fencing

drainage


Any advice (or recommendations of other sites I could use for reference) would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

If it's a lease, it's all the tenants responsibility, but in reality he'd only be expected to maintain it in the condition that he got it

Keepgrowing

Simply put Con acre is rent for 11 months so basically it’s your baby

Lease is for longer typically 5yrs plus and all those terms are agreed before hand.

Potted version

1373

wrangler wrote: »

If it's a lease, it's all the tenants responsibility, but in reality he'd only be expected to maintain it in the condition that he got it

Which is it so? The tenant don’t have to reseed ,lime and probably can’t without the owners permission

limerick farmer

A tenant in a conacre agreement is not obliged to lime or reseed the land but if he or she wanted to keep renting it should maintain fences and keep the land in good order

wrangler

1373 wrote: »

Which is it so? The tenant don’t have to reseed ,lime and probably can’t without the owners permission

They have to keep the farm at the standard they got it, one of my tenants reseeded the whole place, I won't stop him, if they cut the ditches I replace any stakes and wire that needs it but if they don't cut the ditches I can't get in to do that so it's not done but it isn't my responsibility either, I just do it for an interest.
Lime, you can fight it out between yourself, it's not a big cost

Mol88

Road side hedges always the land owner responsibility legally tenant doesn't own hedges or rent on roadside.above all else have public liability insurance and make sure tenant has it for stock.reseeding and lime will be the least of you problems if something happens

Little voice

Thanks to everyone for the advice - all very useful.

I will check out Teagasc and see if I can get some more resources

epfff

Little voice wrote: »

Thanks to everyone for the advice - all very useful.

I will check out Teagasc and see if I can get some more resources

Be carefull of teagasc
I have had bad experiance they are state funded with no accountability. There are a minority of good advisers but i seem to only have found ones that had interest in golf swing or in working with the few elete farmers in area helping them increase there already large single farm payments