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Found out other hse employees on higher wages

  • 25-11-2019 9:08pm
    #1
    garycoyle1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭


    Hi I'm 1 year in to my hse job I started in the middle of Nov last year on scale 1. 3 new recruits started in Feb on the same grade as me. But I have only discovered they started at point 10 on the scale nearly 9000 more than me for the exact same job and Responsibilities. Don't even know what to do here I want equal pay I just feel frustrated


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  • #2
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    garycoyle1 wrote: »
    Hi I'm 1 year in to my hse job I started in the middle of Nov last year on scale 1. 3 new recruits started in Feb on the same grade as me. But I have only discovered they started at point 10 on the scale nearly 9000 more than me for the exact same job and Responsibilities. Don't even know what to do here I want equal pay I just feel frustrated

    If they have had prior public service experience even temporary they will be on a higher pay increment.


  • #3
    garycoyle1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭garycoyle1


    mariaalice wrote: »
    If they have had prior public service experience even temporary they will be on a higher pay increment.

    No they all came from the private sector


  • #4
    antimatterx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    garycoyle1 wrote: »
    No they all came from the private sector

    Doesn't mean they don't have public sector experience even before that.


  • #5
    Salary Negotiator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Salary Negotiator


    Do they have precious relevant experience that you don’t?


  • #6
    Shane Fitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭Shane Fitz


    Can I ask what grade/job this is... all jobs in the hse have a pay scale.. sometimes through promotion, transfers etc staff will move to a point other the first on a new pay scale.
    Are these 3 staff all new entrants?


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  • #7
    garycoyle1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭garycoyle1


    Shane Fitz wrote: »
    Can I ask what grade/job this is... all jobs in the hse have a pay scale.. sometimes through promotion, transfers etc staff will move to a point other the first on a new pay scale.
    Are these 3 staff all new entrants?

    Yes they are all new entrants it's a chef position and they all came from hotels and restaurants etc just like myself with the same qualifications


  • #8
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    garycoyle1 wrote: »
    No they all came from the private sector

    The HSE cant pick and choose what to pay anyone they must have an entitlement to the point of the scale they are on.


  • #9
    Shane Fitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭Shane Fitz


    garycoyle1 wrote: »
    Yes they are all new entrants it's a chef position and they all came from hotels and restaurants etc just like myself with the same qualifications

    As others have said, its first point of the scale unless some incremental credit applies.
    There is obviously something you are unaware of in their circumstances of appointment


  • #10
    garycoyle1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭garycoyle1


    Shane Fitz wrote: »
    As others have said, its first point of the scale unless some incremental credit applies.
    There is obviously something you are unaware of in their circumstances of appointment

    So do u think I should go to hr or my union just to clarify why or am I just wasting my time


  • #11
    Shane Fitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭Shane Fitz


    garycoyle1 wrote: »
    So do u think I should go to hr or my union just to clarify why or am I just wasting my time

    Excuse the crude screen shot.. but there are 5 different grades of Chef.. could that explain the difference


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  • #12
    garycoyle1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭garycoyle1


    Shane Fitz wrote: »
    Excuse the crude screen shot.. but there are 5 different grades of Chef.. could that explain the difference

    Yeah we are all grade 2


  • #13
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    garycoyle1 wrote: »
    Yeah we are all grade 2

    Who told you of this pay difference?


  • #14
    Shane Fitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭Shane Fitz


    garycoyle1 wrote: »
    Yeah we are all grade 2

    There are 2 Grade II.. with and without Qualification.

    Before approaching HR (who really cant get into the others circumstances) or your union I'd have a chat with your line manager.
    As I said.. there might be circumstances you are unaware of.


  • #15
    garycoyle1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭garycoyle1


    Stheno wrote: »
    Who told you of this pay difference?

    2 of the new recruits they where shocked I was on increment 1 and we are all qualified


  • #16
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    garycoyle1 wrote: »
    2 of the new recruits they where shocked I was on increment 1 and we are all qualified

    What increment did they say they were on?


  • #17
    izzyflusky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭izzyflusky


    Are employed directly to the HSE or is it a HSE funded organisation?
    I found that sometimes if they are really having trouble to fill a position they might match previous salary which will bump the person up the scale.


  • #18
    dartboardio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    Yeah are you employed directly by or within the HSE or an outsourced company/3rd party?


  • #19
    Jim2007
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,612 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    garycoyle1 wrote: »
    Don't even know what to do here I want equal pay I just feel frustrated

    Ya, equal pay does not work that way anywhere..... that is why we have various grading systems, performance reviews... etc. Very often it has nothing to do with the actual work being done.

    You are on a looser trying to argue that you should be on the same salary as those are. Instead concentrate on getting yourself pushed up the grading system. Talk to you team lead to find out what it takes to get moving...


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