dairy nuts to cattle

gerryirl

I had a bullock that fell away the last month due to getting hurt. Lad was telling me dairy nuts is a great job to boost them up.. is it a wives tale or did anyone try it.

patsy_mccabe

Doesn't the calcium in Dairy Nuts cause Gall stones?

Maybe Gall stones are worth having after all.
https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/bovine-gallstones-are-worth-more-than-their-weight-in-gold-37877706.html

longgonesilver

the magnesium from the calmag forms crystals in the bladder that are so large that they cause a lot of pain to a male bovine to pass. Ration for milking cows should never be fed to male animals.

A good quality beef ration should be just as good.

_Brian

Great explanation.
Was always told not to do it but never got a satisfactory reason.

Sacrolyte

Bull always wanders in with cows here for ration at milking. No complaints yet.

Panch18

Had my gall bladder out last year - knew i should have stuck to the dairy

Buford T. Justice XIX

gerryirl wrote: »

I had a bullock that fell away the last month due to getting hurt. Lad was telling me dairy nuts is a great job to boost them up.. is it a wives tale or did anyone try it.

Any good quality ration would be as good as a dairy ration.

His appetite reduced as he was feeling the pain so he could do with extra energy to make up for the shortfall in intakes.

If he's still feeling the pain then maybe give the vat a call again to see if a painkiller may be needed again?

hopeso

I know a man who only feeds dairy nuts to everything, including bullocks... His logic is that he is guaranteed quality with the dairy nuts, because the milk men will notice immediately if a batch of nuts is below standard.

Bass Reeves

hopeso wrote: »

I know a man who only feeds dairy nuts to everything, including bullocks... His logic is that he is guaranteed quality with the dairy nuts, because the milk men will notice immediately if a batch of nuts is below standard.

Too much protein in dairy nuts for beef cattle. As well most dairy farmers will not be buying lucky bags at local co-op and most I know are useless when it comes to what is on a ration. The grass can hide a lot of the difference. Lots of dairy farmers now but straights such as hulls or palm kernal

gerryirl

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Any good quality ration would be as good as a dairy ration.

His appetite reduced as he was feeling the pain so he could do with extra energy to make up for the shortfall in intakes.

If he's still feeling the pain then maybe give the vat a call again to see if a painkiller may be needed again?

Your spot on there. Had the vet with him last week and said the same thing. It seemed very harmless hurt but boy did he melt. The fecker wont eat nuts for me now

Say my name

gerryirl wrote: »

Your spot on there. Had the vet with him last week and said the same thing. It seemed very harmless hurt but boy did he melt. The fecker wont eat nuts for me now

I'll give the Facebook answer.:p

"Did you try him with some ivy to get his appetite back?"



I see my own cows are going mad for ivy on their way in and out for milking.
It's a bit different with a hurt but any port in a storm and all that.

GrasstoMilk

Say my name wrote: »

I'll give the Facebook answer.:p

"Did you try him with some ivy to get his appetite back?"



I see my own cows are going mad for ivy on their way in and out for milking.
It's a bit different with a hurt but any port in a storm and all that.

Ivy was supposed to be an old cure for retained cleanings. The cows here love it, they'd strip any tree that might have some

Say my name

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Ivy was supposed to be an old cure for retained cleanings. The cows here love it, they'd strip any tree that might have some

It gets a sick sheep back eating as well.
Your neighbours would tell you that one.

Some people freak out if they see their cows eating it.
The cow knows what she wants and needs more than you or me.
The cows here are eating ivy, Japanese knotweed and whatever else takes their fancy when they come in. I've never lost one yet from plant poisoning in all these years. It's only when they're forced to eat a plant they get in trouble.

alps

Say my name wrote: »

It gets a sick sheep back eating as well.
Your neighbours would tell you that one.

Some people freak out if they see their cows eating it.
The cow knows what she wants and needs more than you or me.
The cows here are eating ivy, Japanese knotweed and whatever else takes their fancy when they come in. I've never lost one yet from plant poisoning in all these years. It's only when they're forced to eat a plant they get in trouble.

Wow...JAPANESE KNOTWEED..???

Are you not concerned that it will spread all over the place through dung and droppings from the mouth?

orm0nd

alps wrote: »

Wow...JAPANESE KNOTWEED..???

Are you not concerned that it will spread all over the place through dung and droppings from the mouth?

It won't.

Say my name

alps wrote: »

Wow...JAPANESE KNOTWEED..???

Are you not concerned that it will spread all over the place through dung and droppings from the mouth?

They were walking by this bit all year and wouldn't touch it.
Whatever reason now with the time of year with the grass or the sap going out the jap leaves they have them all stripped.
It's only leaves we're talking here. I wouldn't be the latest bit concerned. That little bunch of jap knotweed has been there as far as I'm concerned time immemorial and has stayed a little bunch.
Ah sure who knows it may reduce their cholesterol, reduce heart attacks, work as an anti inflammatory, bring down the cell count, combat infections, relieve symptoms of arthritis, protect the body against neurotoxin damage and sure whatever else your having yourself.

gerryirl

jasus your calm about the knotweed. Its horrible stuff. You cant get planning on ground that has it and if it gets near your house or shed it'll burst the walls of it in time. Id be making a call to get rid of it rather than hoping it''ll become the new Lourdes curing everything known to mankind..lol

Say my name

gerryirl wrote: »

jasus your calm about the knotweed. Its horrible stuff. You cant get planning on ground that has it and if it gets near your house or shed it'll burst the walls of it in time. Id be making a call to get rid of it rather than hoping it''ll become the new Lourdes curing everything known to mankind..lol

Over hyped have it here before I was born.

toleratethis

Say my name wrote: »

Over hyped have it here before I was born.

100% over hyped. It's been in this area since before I was born as well, including what anyone would consider vulnerable road foundations, no one bats an eye, never heard it being an issue.

hopeso

toleratethis wrote: »

100% over hyped. It's been in this area since before I was born as well, including what anyone would consider vulnerable road foundations, no one bats an eye, never heard it being an issue.

It's only in the last few years around here that I noticed all the signs up everywhere, saying Japanese Knotweed do not cut. I never even heard of it before that. So, is this something else that someone has turned into a money making racket?

gerryirl

hopeso wrote: »

It's only in the last few years around here that I noticed all the signs up everywhere, saying Japanese Knotweed do not cut. I never even heard of it before that. So, is this something else that someone has turned into a money making racket?

Flip side of that. A friend of mine has a piece of ground he was going to build a house on but cant get planning cause its on it

orm0nd

hopeso wrote: »

It's only in the last few years around here that I noticed all the signs up everywhere, saying Japanese Knotweed do not cut. I never even heard of it before that. So, is this something else that someone has turned into a money making racket?

do cut signs are usually by the road side , warning for the hedgecutter
it is spread by small fragments of the root being carried and deposited which could happen with a flail hedgecutter

like wise with building sites and river banks etc, the root can lie dormant for decades b4 bursting into growth

Birdnuts

orm0nd wrote: »

do cut signs are usually by the road side , warning for the hedgecutter
it is spread by small fragments of the root being carried and deposited which could happen with a flail hedgecutter

like wise with building sites and river banks etc, the root can lie dormant for decades b4 bursting into growth

Himalayan Balsam is another destructive invasive plant that is steadily destroying riparian habitats in much of the country - its particularly annoying when you see the apparently unlimited budget the like of the OPW have for destroying natural vegetation along rivers/canals, yet even in our National Parks, invasive species like Rhodondendron are allowed to run riot with little or nothing invested by the state to deal with the problem:mad: