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Bereavement leave query

  • 22-10-2019 6:02pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,276 ✭✭✭


    If, say, a sister or brother (three day leave) passes away at 0600 on a Friday when are you to return to work?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭2xj3hplqgsbkym


    bobbyss wrote: »
    If, say, a sister or brother (three day leave) passes away at 0600 on a Friday when are you to return to work?

    You get three days leave , must be taken immediately- so back on the Thursday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    Officially its Fri Sat sun but no one questions the Mon, Tues, Wed. That's assuming the Fri is taken as a sick day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,276 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    I find the circular outlining this confusing.

    If your sister dies at 0600 on a Friday I would take Friday as my first day. My understanding is that you are entitled to three consecutive days off. Meaning Fri, Mon and Tue. Back on Wed. Am I wrong?

    I don't quite understand your reference to a Friday being taken ss a 'sick day'. What if you already have used up your sick day entitlement?

    In short, are weekends included in bereavement leave? I am also not clear, according to the circular, when the leave actually begins?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭Daisy 55


    Weekends are included. I’ve been in that situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭Daisy 55


    TheDriver wrote: »
    Officially its Fri Sat sun but no one questions the Mon, Tues, Wed. That's assuming the Fri is taken as a sick day.

    Other staff members may have thought so, but in my case the “extra” days were sick leave.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭slipperyox


    If your brother or sister passed away.

    Would you still be so worried about the consequences of missing a week from work?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭strawberrie


    Its five days for immediate family


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,276 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    Daisy 55 wrote:
    Weekends are included. I’ve been in that situation.


    OK. The circular isn't clear on that. It doesn't mention weekends as far as i know.
    So in my scenario I would be expected back on Monday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,719 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    I can’t believe any manager would be so tight on this stuff. Nor that colleagues would care either.

    Seriously I had a guy ring yesterday his wife was admitted for emergency surgery and I gave him two weeks there and then and we will sort it when he returns with a combination of leave and hours worked back over a few months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭solerina


    _Brian wrote: »
    I can’t believe any manager would be so tight on this stuff. Nor that colleagues would care either.

    Seriously I had a guy ring yesterday his wife was admitted for emergency surgery and I gave him two weeks there and then and we will sort it when he returns with a combination of leave and hours worked back over a few months.

    Pity more Principals weren’t like this !!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    bobbyss wrote: »
    If, say, a sister or brother (three day leave) passes away at 0600 on a Friday when are you to return to work?

    5 days - Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday.
    Back to work Wednesday.

    Our wages are based over 7 days not 5 days so I do think Saturday and Sunday are included in this case.

    Say if something else on the Friday was keyed in on the system then you might get away with Mon-Fri for bereavement leave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭strawberrie


    Friday could be taken as a self certified sick day or family illness leave and enter the bereavement leave to start from Monday and run to Friday the following week.
    It's shocking how short bereavement leave is for immediate family


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,276 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    _Brian wrote:
    I can’t believe any manager would be so tight on this stuff. Nor that colleagues would care either.

    _Brian wrote:
    Seriously I had a guy ring yesterday his wife was admitted for emergency surgery and I gave him two weeks there and then and we will sort it when he returns with a combination of leave and hours worked back over a few months.


    Isn't it strange that a circular can be so misunderstood? Some say you're back on Monday. Some say Friday. Some Wednesday.

    As a Principal or Deputy Principal, and leaving sentiment behind, what leave days are you entitled to for the scenario outlined in the first post? Assuming you take the Friday off, that's one day gone. You are left with two. Sat and Sun and back on Monday?

    For the guy in your school who was given two weeks, what class of leave does that come under?

    And colleagues do care about how many days are given for bereavement leave. I would not be a happy camper if one colleague was given more time off than another for similar bereavements.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    _Brian wrote: »
    I can’t believe any manager would be so tight on this stuff. Nor that colleagues would care either.

    Seriously I had a guy ring yesterday his wife was admitted for emergency surgery and I gave him two weeks there and then and we will sort it when he returns with a combination of leave and hours worked back over a few months.
    But you have that flexibility. We may have compassionate and understanding and colleageality but we don't have a capacity to hire a replacement unless it's an approved leave.


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