Boil water notice affecting D15

Codpeas

Just letting folks know:

https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2019/1022/1085003-boil-water-notice/

LorelaiG

FFS have been horsing the water into me all day... same with the kids all they drink is water.

Off to buy some bottled in the morning

swatch

Is Castleknock effected by the boil water notice? It’s not listed in the involved areas by RTE but doesn’t look to be coloured in on the map although map isn’t terribly clear?

HeidiHeidi

LorelaiG wrote: »

FFS have been horsing the water into me all day... same with the kids all they drink is water.

Off to buy some bottled in the morning

https://www.fsai.ie/news_centre/food_alerts/Celtic_Pure.html

Careful which one you buy!!

Zaph

swatch wrote: »

Is Castleknock effected by the boil water notice? It’s not listed in the involved areas by RTE but doesn’t look to be coloured in on the map although map isn’t terribly clear?

Given that all the areas around Castleknock are affected, I wouldn't take the chance that it's not affected.

BDI

Whole of Dublin pretty much.

LorelaiG

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

https://www.fsai.ie/news_centre/food_alerts/Celtic_Pure.html

Careful which one you buy!!

Had read this last night too. It's crazy what's going on

beauf

What I find weird is I know some areas in D15 don't suffer from lime and some do. I was told the latter supply is from meath the other from Wicklow.

But these maps for this boil notice don't align with my experience of lime and hard water in the area.

Seems like Irish water are very unclear about it all. Very poorly communicated. It's over half a million people effected. You'd think they'd be able to give more details.

Sir Oxman

Use this map, the one released by IW is useless
You can zoom to street level

https://irishwater.maps.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=56937c0ed9594e3a8d3b480571402a00&fbclid=IwAR0ZtLNtRouwU-UBsDhJLNGOA5sPdwSRkKByfD6OJgGC14f6tL1FL8LUX0Q

Skylinehead

BDI wrote: »

Whole of Dublin pretty much.

Well that's not even slightly true.

beauf

Skylinehead wrote: »

Well that's not even slightly true.

Half of it anyway

Zaph

Another boil water notice just been announced by Irish Water. Seemingly heavy rain has caused problems at the Leixlip treatment plant.

ongarite

Got a link?
Can't see anything on water.ie yet

Zaph

ongarite wrote: »

Got a link?
Can't see anything on water.ie yet

It's being reported by Richard Chambers and others on Twitter, but nothing from Irish Water directly yet.

Eircom_Sucks

Aload of bollox tbh

In this day and age

Country will come to stand still

blackcard

600,000 people affected again. Apparently water levels in the reservoirs dropped during the recent incident. They brought an older plant back into production to try and restore levels. However, turbidity levels increased following the recent rains and plant has had to be shut down. I imagine the boil water notice will be lifted quickly but extreme bad publicity for Irish Water

Toto Wolfcastle

Bit of a mess. Irish Water are tweeting that it’s in place while Irish Water customer care are tweeting that it’s been lifted.

Edit: The ‘lifted’ tweets have been deleted.

Eircom_Sucks

Prob a stupid question

Ive no dishwasher

Can i use the immersion water to clean the delph ?

Caranica

Eircom_Sucks wrote: »

Prob a stupid question

Ive no dishwasher

Can i use the immersion water to clean the delph ?

Irish water today tweeted that water needs to be 82c to be safe (which rules out most dishwashers) so I would say you need to use boiling water that's cooled a little but not much

Eircom_Sucks

Prob a stupid question

Ive no dishwasher

Can i use the immersion water to clean the delph ?

Eircom_Sucks

Caranica wrote: »

Irish water today tweeted that water needs to be 82c to be safe (which rules out most dishwashers) so I would say you need to use boiling water that's cooled a little but not much

Immersion ?

Caranica

Eircom_Sucks wrote: »

Immersion ?

Doubt that heats to 82c? Google says 60

Cathmandooo

Eircom_Sucks wrote: »

Immersion ?

Not hot enough, you need to boil it in a pot or kettle

Eircom_Sucks

Cheers

dodzy

Caranica wrote: »

Irish water today tweeted that water needs to be 82c to be safe (which rules out most dishwashers) so I would say you need to use boiling water that's cooled a little but not much

Ah come on, dishwasher use as normal sure to be fine. We’re reaching a bit here.

Toto Wolfcastle

dodzy wrote: »

Ah come on, dishwasher use as normal sure to be fine. We’re reaching a bit here.

During the first boil notice a spokesperson from Irish Water was on the radio saying dishwasher use is fine. I’ve just searched on Twitter though and they’re saying you can only use it if it has a sanitising cycle.

beauf

sanitising cycle?

Toto Wolfcastle

beauf wrote: »

sanitising cycle?

Yeah, never heard of it. We got a new dishwasher recently with all sorts of cycles so I must investigate later. We’ve been using our usual cycle during the boil notice and we’re grand.

Shane O' Malley

Cathmandooo wrote: »

Not hot enough, you need to boil it in a pot or kettle

Am i missing something. Boil notice is only for drinking and cooking water. Not for washing etc. Fine for washing dishes or am i wrong.

LoonyLovegood

Officially, they're saying no dishwashers can be used unless it gets to 82 degrees.

https://twitter.com/IWCare/status/1191767355027853312

Cathmandooo

Shane O' Malley wrote: »

Am i missing something. Boil notice is only for drinking and cooking water. Not for washing etc. Fine for washing dishes or am i wrong.

That's true, I thought the question was does immersion water meet the requirements of the boil water notice in general, I blame my headcold for not reading it properly, apologies!

Shane O' Malley

LoonyLovegood wrote: »

Officially, they're saying no dishwashers can be used unless it gets to 82 degrees.

https://twitter.com/IWCare/status/1191767355027853312

Wow, I am hoping that is just over kill or for infants/sick

LoonyLovegood

Shane O' Malley wrote: »

Wow, I am hoping that is just over kill or for infants/sick

I don't know, I know a couple of healthy people who were badly affected by the last boil notice, sick for a week from it. I'm not taking any chances

miamee

Wow, I don't remember them saying this for any other notice before, the water must be really bad. And we just wash dishes by hand, didn't know about any of this

beauf

Mine is an older one only gets to 70c

Caranica

Mine is brand new, only a few weeks. Ran it on the sanitising cycle last night even though that only gets to 70 degrees. Haven't the time to be handwashing things and they never feel as clean to me anyway.

beauf

Basically you have to scorch them.

They really are very poor at getting information out.

sunny2004

Read through the thread but left wondering if I missed exactly what's in the water ?

Shane O' Malley

sunny2004 wrote: »

Read through the thread but left wondering if I missed exactly what's in the water ?

Nothing specific, just that the old water plant that they had to put into action cannot be guaranteed to be cleaning the water to the required level.

It is precautionary as far as i am aware but maybe someone has seen some tests that have indicated otherwise. I know there was a problem with "cloudy" water due to the amount of rain but have not seem any mention of that causing a problem.

Mezzotint

Just looked at my dishwasher instructions, a recent Miele, and the washes are 45-65C (sensor programme depending on soil level)

Intensive 75C

The gentle cycles are lower temp.

Final rinse is 65C on most cycles

Seems logical though as a lot of domestic items are plastic and mightn't survive an extremely hot cycle. Not very much would survive the main wash because of the detergents involved. They're a mixture of strong surfactants etc, multiple enzymes and usually peroxide based bleach. They're a lot more full on than fairy liquid, which is just surfactants.

However, if the water is contaminated, the final rinses will be using it at 65C without any detergents.

dodzy

Anybody that’s washing dishes by hand with a functional dishwasher needs their head examined. Seriously. You’re washing the bloody things and they go through a dry (heat) cycle. Bone dry on exit. Or are they afraid of trace residue? It’s BS. And scaremongering at best.

beauf

I think you're back to why the water needs to be boiled in the first place, and not just hot.

Ihatewhahabies

Was in the Parnell Mooney , lunchtime. I was told that they were not serving tap water as there was a boil notice issued. I work O'Connell st and decided to query this as we had no such restrictions for tap water. Initially I was told the Government recommended not to use tap water, when I pursued this I was told it was the pub's policy.....A scam in my view to sell bottled water, am I wrong to be so cynical

Mezzotint

They go through a dry cycle which is spraying them with 65C fresh water and then letting the residual heat in the dishes air dry them. Modern dishwashers often use things like condensation drying.

Mine basically has a tank of water behind the inner walls of the machine. To dry it rinses I'm 65C water then fills the tank with cold water and starts a fan. The residual heat in the dishes evaporates most of the water an that hits the cooler walls of the machine and condenses.

They seem a lot hotter than they are, because they're spraying 60+C water which creates a lot of steam if you open the door kis cycle.

If you're using them with clean water, the long, relatively hot mid cycle with all of the detergents, enzymes and bleach will kill absolutely anything but then you're dumping in dirty water from the contaminated mains at the end and only heating to 65C. If the water contains cryptosporidium spores, that won't kill them. Simple as. There's no scaremongering involved. That temp will kill most bacteria and viruses but it won't reliably kill spores. That's why they're being so technical in the temperature requirements.

Likewise, unless your hot water heating is set to some dangerously high temperature, it won't be hot enough to reliably kill them either. The long time at 60+C might but, it's not entirely guaranteed.

Irish Water are just covering their own rears by giving the very absolute boil water notice.

beauf

Ihatewhahabies wrote: »

Was in the Parnell Mooney , lunchtime. I was told that they were not serving tap water as there was a boil notice issued. I work O'Connell st and decided to query this as we had no such restrictions for tap water. Initially I was told the Government recommended not to use tap water, when I pursued this I was told it was the pub's policy.....A scam in my view to sell bottled water, am I wrong to be so cynical

Yes.

If they are still doing it a month after the notice is lifted. If it's lifted.. Then maybe not.

KGLady

At least ye have it to boil


https://twitter.com/Fingalcoco/status/1192093727700979712?s=20


Burst water main in Willows, Hartstown and it was accompanied by an unmerciful smell of gas in the air outside strong enough to be coming into the house and car too. Great craic eh?

D.Wilmott

Fingers crossed this notice is lifted tomorrow but there seems to be plenty of 2L and 5L still spring water bottles left in the local Aldi , LIDL and tesco stores for anyone wondering.

LorelaiG

D.Wilmott wrote: »

Fingers crossed this notice is lifted tomorrow but there seems to be plenty of 2L and 5L still spring water bottles left in the local Aldi , LIDL and tesco stores for anyone wondering.

Lidl in tyrellstown and aldi in mulhuddart had only small multipack of bottles no 2 litre or 5 litre this morning. Plenty of 2 litre flavoured water in aldi

miamee

Notice lifted

Boil water notice for 600,000 people in Dublin, Kildare and Meath lifted with immediate effect https://jrnl.ie/4887887