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Live in Ireland, employed by UK employer, paid through agency...

  • 22-10-2019 9:33am
    #1
    vqr2a0kg3lywos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭


    Hey,

    I recently put up another thread talking about taxes from the UK.

    I'm after a little more advice / help.

    I'm still in talks with the company, they are happy to pay me through PAYE if they can, to save me getting set up as self employed. I will still continue to earn additional income on top which I'll settle through a form 11 once a year.

    To try and keep it brief:

    - They are a UK company with a handful of employees
    - They have no subsidiary in Ireland
    - They are happy to pay me through PAYE if it's possible
    - They are saying that to pay me through PAYE without setting up a subsidiary they will have to pay me through an agency
    - I'll have a contract directly from them

    My questions:

    - Does this sound right? Being paid through an agency but employed by someone else
    - Are there any employee rights I should be worried about if going through an agency or does my contract cover everything? (Once I check it over of course)
    - If paid through PAYE even through an agency, there's nothing else outside of additional income I need to worry about for tax?

    Cheers!


Comments

  • #2
    vqr2a0kg3lywos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭vqr2a0kg3lywos


    Things are progressing with this. Looks like an agency is being used so fingers crossed!


  • #3
    srsly78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    OP you have this wrong. You would be employed by the agency, not the UK company. You would have no rights at all probably, and this is without even considering brexit.


  • #4
    vqr2a0kg3lywos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭vqr2a0kg3lywos


    srsly78 wrote: »
    OP you have this wrong. You would be employed by the agency, not the UK company. You would have no rights at all probably, and this is without even considering brexit.

    Even if I sign a contract with them?

    I literally have a contract with them now waiting to sign.

    They are saying they will just pay me through the agency.

    Is that not possible?


  • #5
    srsly78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    It's not a normal employment contract. You would be a contractor not an employee, so little rights.


  • #6
    Calahonda52
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,028 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    srsly78 wrote: »
    It's not a normal employment contract. You would be a contractor not an employee, so little rights.

    I don't disagree but could it be just a payroll service, something the agency offers.

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



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  • #7
    vqr2a0kg3lywos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭vqr2a0kg3lywos


    Calahonda52 wrote: »
    I don't disagree but could it be just a payroll service, something the agency offers.

    That's what it sounds like, they've put me in touch with their accountant to ask some questions.

    The contract doesn't say I'm a contractor by the way. It's direct with them, job title, salary and all.


  • #8
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,361 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    srsly78 wrote: »
    It's not a normal employment contract. You would be a contractor not an employee, so little rights.

    Wrong. It's a normal enjoyment contract. You work FOR the agency, AT the workplace of the agency's client (who is the employer) or at any other place the client tells you to, eg your home.

    You usually have all the basic employment rights (eg annual leave), but usually no bells and whistles (eg paid sick leave).

    In the other thread, I suggested reading up about umbrella companies. If the agency your employer has chosen is one of these, then your contract is likely transparent about the fees the agency charges. If it's just a regular employment agency, then you probably won't know what their cut is. Whatever ot is, remember that it includes 8% to cover your annual leave and 11% to cover employer PRSI.


  • #9
    vqr2a0kg3lywos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭vqr2a0kg3lywos


    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    Wrong. It's a normal enjoyment contract. You work FOR the agency, AT the workplace of the agency's client (who is the employer) or at any other place the client tells you to, eg your home.

    You usually have all the basic employment rights (eg annual leave), but usually no bells and whistles (eg paid sick leave).

    In the other thread, I suggested reading up about umbrella companies. If the agency your employer has chosen is one of these, then your contract is likely transparent about the fees the agency charges. If it's just a regular employment agency, then you probably won't know what their cut is. Whatever ot is, remember that it includes 8% to cover your annual leave and 11% to cover employer PRSI.

    My contract includes sick pay (up to 28 days a year) and holidays (29 days a year). That's a contract direct with the company I'll be working for.

    All the agency is for is to pay me.

    At least that's how it's being set up.

    The company has also put me in touch with the accountant they use to let me ask any questions so I'll be asking them how it all works.


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