Handbrake issue

dazzeremo

I have a question about a handbrake button. I've been learning to drive in my dad's car. it's a manual diesel. I have failed the test previously and one of the issues was I didn't come to a complete stop at a stop sign.. I know myself I was using the clutch to roll back and forth instead of using this fidgety handbrake button I can't get used to.

However, the car has a 'hold' button I've recently discovered. If I press the brake pedal white stationary it engages the handbrake. I find it easy easier.

How will this be viewed in the test?

greasepalm

To me that is what it is designed for so vehicle in theory should be dead still.But what happens when in a vehicle with no hold button and using the clutch in and out is not good at the lights so getting use to using the handbrake properly just in case.

dazzeremo

greasepalm wrote: »

To me that is what it is designed for so vehicle in theory should be dead still.But what happens when in a vehicle with no hold button and using the clutch in and out is not good at the lights so getting use to using the handbrake properly just in case.

you're 100% right, it is something I will have to master eventually. test is tomorrow week though so wondering if I can use this hold button in test.

I am using the brake pedal to engage the handbrake.

ohnonotgmail

what actual issue are you having with the electronic handbrake? You come to a stop, put your foot on the brake and then engage the handbrake via the button. when you want to move off you use the clutch and accelerator as normal. you leave the handbrake alone and it disengages itself.

LorelaiG

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

what actual issue are you having with the electronic handbrake? You come to a stop, put your foot on the brake and then engage the handbrake via the button. when you want to move off you use the clutch and accelerator as normal. you leave the handbrake alone and it disengages itself.

My electronic handbrake does not disengage itself once it is engaged. I also have to press the brake pedal to release the electronic hand brake.

ohnonotgmail

LorelaiG wrote: »

My electronic handbrake does not disengage itself once it is engaged. I also have to press the brake pedal to release the electronic hand brake.

really? I thought that was the whole point. what car is it?

antix80

dazzeremo wrote: »

I have failed the test previously and one of the issues was I didn't come to a complete stop at a stop sign.. I know myself I was using the clutch to roll back and forth

The issue isn't that you didn't come to a complete stop - you can come to a complete stop with the brake. The issue is that you rolled when you tried to move off.

I'm assuming there was a hill at the stop sign. If there wasn't, you don't need to use the handbrake. If there was, the handbrake can definitely stop you from rolling.

It sounds like the brake pedal (while stationary) is the same thing as the handbrake button. Read the manual that came with your car to find out. If it is, I don't see why there'd be a problem using it instead of the button if they do the same thing.

LorelaiG

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

really? I thought that was the whole point. what car is it?

It's a 2010 Renault Grand Scenic.

ohnonotgmail

LorelaiG wrote: »

It's a 2010 Renault Grand Scenic.

funnily enough i drive a renault myself of near enough the same year. i imagine the electronic handbrake tech is common to both. are you sure it doesnt automatically disengage when you drive off?

this is the manual for a scenic. https://gb.e-guide.renault.com/eng/New-Scenic/ELECTRONIC-PARKING-BRAKE

it may be for a different model and possibly a later model but the tech should be the same

To apply the electronic parking brake manually (when stopping at a red light, or stopping when the engine is running, etc.): pull and release the switch 3. The brake is released as soon as the vehicle is started up again.

Tow

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

are you sure it doesnt automatically disengage when you drive off?

It should auto disengage on the Grand Scenic. In any event the OP is riding the clutch which is a fail. His old man will also not be happy, a new clutch is a big job on the Scenic.

ohnonotgmail

Tow wrote: »

It should auto disengage on the Grand Scenic. In any event the OP is riding the clutch which is a fail. His old man will also not be happy, a new clutch is a big job on the Scenic.

yeah i totally agree. rocking back and forth on the clutch is a test fail surely?

LorelaiG

Tow wrote: »

It should auto disengage on the Grand Scenic. In any event the OP is riding the clutch which is a fail. His old man will also not be happy, a new clutch is a big job on the Scenic.

Don't think OP drives a Scenic, I do lol.

I've just been reading up and apparently there may be a sensor loose which is causing the problem I'm having. Will have it looked at.

ohnonotgmail

LorelaiG wrote: »

Don't think OP drives a Scenic, I do lol.

I've just been reading up and apparently there may be a sensor loose which is causing the problem I'm having. Will have it looked at.

The OP hasn't mentioned what they are driving but they should all automatically disengage.

dazzeremo

antix80 wrote: »

The issue isn't that you didn't come to a complete stop - you can come to a complete stop with the brake. The issue is that you rolled when you tried to move off.

I'm assuming there was a hill at the stop sign. If there wasn't, you don't need to use the handbrake. If there was, the handbrake can definitely stop you from rolling.

It sounds like the brake pedal (while stationary) is the same thing as the handbrake button. Read the manual that came with your car to find out. If it is, I don't see why there'd be a problem using it instead of the button if they do the same thing.

Thanks, I'll take that on board. Once I release the clutch the engine seems to have enough bite and takes off.

dazzeremo

passed the test today with this handbrake button on. delighted!