Cattle grading is it correct?

jntsnk

The QPS deductions basically wiping out the bonus. Can someone explain.
TIA

wrangler

jntsnk wrote: »

There is deductions basically wiping out the bonus. Can someone explain.
TIA

Base price is for Rs I think, deductions for grades below that, Os and Ps and bonuses for Es and Us

blue5000

J we can only see the weights and grades you got, can't see the price per kg


Edit: sorry see more now than the first pic. What does QPS mean? I think it's minus 6 cent per kg for each increment below R=3. Is the bottom one minus 24 cents because it is an O-?

jntsnk

blue5000 wrote: »

J we can only see the weights and grades you got, can't see the price per kg

Ok
Take the first animal QPS -18 QAS 20 = base + 2cents is €3.47

mr.stonewall

Difference in weight is the 2% deduction for hot to cold weight.

jntsnk

mr.stonewall wrote: »

Difference in weight is the 2% deduction for hot to cold weight.

Ok , I meant QPS deductions

wrangler

blue5000 wrote: »

J we can only see the weights and grades you got, can't see the price per kg


Edit: sorry see more now than the first pic. What does QPS mean?

QPS is Quality Payment scheme, is the payments based on the grading grid......base price is €3.45/kg for R grade, O= price is base price minus18c and O+ price is base price minus 12c

blue5000

jntsnk wrote:

Ok
Take the first animal QPS -18 QAS 20 = base + 2cents is €3.47

3 increments down from the base price of 3.45, gives you minus 18, add on 20 cents quality bonus gives you a price of 3.45 (20-18) plus 2 cents, €3.47

wrangler

This is the famous grid

http://www.thebeefsite.com/news/contents/09-12-18Lmci.gif

Muckit

jntsnk wrote: »

The QPS deductions basically wiping out the bonus. Can someone explain.
TIA

It's all how you look at it. From what l can see, you did the best job you could with the cattle you had. Isn't that all any of us can do? You had plenty of cover on them and decent weight for their carcass grading.

They were always going to take a hammering on the grid. Perhaps these type cattle are best sold for flat price off grid (l don't know if that was an option, especially the way things are at the mo?) If base price was 30-35c higher it would make a huge difference. And if my Aunt had balls says you, she'd be my uncle.

You won on the new Q payments that was achieved at the talks.

Lime Tree Farm

These explanations are dated - when times were better - but the trend was starting for form.


https://www.thatsfarming.com/news/beef-roundup-carcass-specifications-explained

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/grading-cattle-what-do-the-meat-processors-want/

SuperTortoise

Why are E grades not shown on the grid picture?

jntsnk

Muckit wrote: »

It's all how you look at it. From what l can see, you did the best job you could with the cattle you had. Isn't that all any of us can do? You had plenty of cover on them and decent weight for their carcass grading.

They were always going to take a hammering on the grid. Perhaps these type cattle are best sold for flat price off grid (l don't know if that was an option, especially the way things are at the mo?) If base price was 30-35c higher it would make a huge difference. And if my Aunt had balls says you, she'd be my uncle.

You won on the new Q payments that was achieved at the talks.

Have tried for flat pricing , factories shoot it down. It’s true, the damn price drop is a killer.At least they got no meal in their lifetime just grass and silage. Low cost. Would get more probably feeding nuts, but that’s another debate!

cute geoge

What breed and what age and price did you buy these?

Bass Reeves

jntsnk wrote: »

Have tried for flat pricing , factories shoot it down. It’s true, the damn price drop is a killer.At least they got no meal in their lifetime just grass and silage. Low cost. Would get more probably feeding nuts, but that’s another debate!

Not sure if you would have those were great FS and weights for cattle off grass only. What breed were they, when did you buy them in and at what weight and cost.