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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    I dunno. Seems too good for him TBH.

    Personally I would preferred some evidence of at least some extreme pain and suffering before he died.

    He got off lightly while his crimes will live on for decades.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    watched a documentary about him. As far as humanity goes, the man has been dead a long time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    He won't be re-offending! Result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    I had a chat with a psychiatrist a few years back.

    She compared them to rats: everyone hates rats but rats are rats and rats do not see themselves as creatures of repulsion. They just go about their business in a 'normal' manner.

    Basically child abusers and guys like this really not normal human beings (ok hardly ground breaking) and are basically beyond redemption. There is no cure or treatment.

    Interestingly, she said that there are very specific markings seen in the palms of child abusers. Widely observed, written about, photographed and catalogued over many decades.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Absolutely disgusting unrepentant creature.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,352 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I had a chat with a psychiatrist a few years back.

    She compared them to rats: everyone hates rats but rats are rats and rats do not see themselves as creatures of repulsion. They just go about their business in a 'normal' manner.

    Basically child abusers and guys like this really not normal human beings (ok hardly ground breaking) and are basically beyond redemption. There is no cure or treatment.

    Interestingly, she said that there are very specific markings seen in the palms of child abusers. Widely observed, written about, photographed and catalogued over many decades.

    Sorry, you had me until there, what?

    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Boggles wrote: »
    Sorry, you had me until there, what?

    :confused:


    Sorry as in the palms of their hands. Child abusers apparently have specific identifying markings on the palms of their hands that they are born with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭rgmmg


    Sorry as in the palms of their hands. Child abusers apparently have specific identifying markings on the palms of their hands that they are born with.

    Yes, that's what I thought you meant the first time you stated it. Sounds like tripe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,352 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Sorry as in the palms of their hands. Child abusers apparently have specific identifying markings on the palms of their hands that they are born with.

    She was winding you up I'd say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    You'd have to ask serious questions as to how this was left happen, a person of Huckle's status surely should of been on higher alert due to the nature of the crimes he committed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Boggles wrote: »
    She was winding you up I'd say.


    Well perhaps but why would you on such a pretty damn serious topic. She even pulled out a book with photographs of palms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    You'd have to ask serious questions as to how this was left happen, a person of Huckle's status surely should of been on higher alert due to the nature of the crimes he committed.


    Epstein was able to kill himself even after an attempt a few week earlier.


    Anyway fcuk him, why should he get special treatment. Saved the tax payers thousands of pounds a year.


  • Site Banned Posts: 68 ✭✭Fornevermore


    Well perhaps but why would you on such a pretty damn serious topic. She even pulled out a book with photographs of palms.

    Well?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,352 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Well perhaps but why would you on such a pretty damn serious topic. She even pulled out a book with photographs of palms.

    I have no idea, but think about it. It sounds completely ludicrous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭BillyBird


    Well?


    If she was a psychiatrist it wouldn't be the first Irish psychiatrist I've heard about spouting nonsense. There's hope it's the same person and the profession is not full of kooks.



    There's no evidence to support palm readings, it's a tool used to separate the gullible from their money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Boggles wrote: »
    I have no idea, but think about it. It sounds completely ludicrous.


    I agree it sounds ludicrous but clearly there is some sort of study into.

    After all it is such a murky depraved world that there is **** that goes on that no right thinking person can comprehend.

    What that piece of **** did is beyond what anyone of us can even begin or even want to imagine so I guess anything is possible really and nothing is off the table.


  • Site Banned Posts: 68 ✭✭Fornevermore


    I agree it sounds ludicrous but clearly there is some sort of study into.

    After all it is such a murky depraved world that there is **** that goes on that no right thinking person can comprehend.

    What that piece of **** did is beyond what anyone of us can even begin or even want to imagine so I guess anything is possible really and nothing is off the table.

    Explain yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Explain yourself.


    Wha?


  • Site Banned Posts: 68 ✭✭Fornevermore


    Wha?

    What the **** is this hand thing you were told about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    What the **** is this hand thing you were told about?


    My posts contain the info and pretty self explanatory even if I say so myself. I have no more to add as it was based on a 20 min conversation in an office in 2008.



    Worried?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Sorry as in the palms of their hands. Child abusers apparently have specific identifying markings on the palms of their hands that they are born with.

    A qualified psychiatrist registered with the RCSI told you that Paedophiles are born with identifying markings on their hands?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭rgmmg


    My posts contain the info and pretty self explanatory even if I say so myself. I have no more to add as it was based on a 20 min conversation in an office in 2008.



    Worried?

    Right, that's it. Hands up.


  • Site Banned Posts: 68 ✭✭Fornevermore


    My posts contain the info and pretty self explanatory even if I say so myself. I have no more to add as it was based on a 20 min conversation in an office in 2008.



    Worried?

    What are the markings on the hands?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    splinter65 wrote: »
    A qualified psychiatrist registered with the RCSI told you that Paedophiles are born with identifying markings on their hands?


    In a nutshell yes but forgive me but I did not take the time to note the persons exact qualifications or professional membership.

    Don't shoot the messenger. I am just relaying a 20 minute conversation I had 11 years ago. Might have been debunked as complete bollocks since for all I know. Judging by the age of the pictures and book it looked like a study going back many decades.

    It is something that somebody has taken the time to look into by all accounts. People carry out studies into all sorts of crazy stuff and I guess this is just one theory out there. I am not psychiatrist and I don't work in the field so I really have no more info on the topic.


  • Site Banned Posts: 68 ✭✭Fornevermore


    In a nutshell yes but forgive me but I did not take the time to note the persons exact qualifications or professional membership.

    Don't shoot the messenger. I am just relaying a 20 minute conversation I had 11 years ago. Might have been debunked as complete bollocks since for all I know. Judging by the age of the pictures and book it looked like a study going back many decades.

    It is something that somebody has taken the time to look into by all accounts. People carry out studies into all sorts of crazy stuff and I guess this is just one theory out there. I am not psychiatrist and I don't work in the field so I really have no more info on the topic.

    What were the markings?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    What were the markings?


    Callouses on hand and fingertips from all the clicking of the computer mouse.


    Jesus man. Have you any manners?

    I don't know I didn't take that much interest and genuinely cannot remember- she was just flicking through the pages and pointing to random places on palms. There was no 'I am a paedophile' in teeny tiny writing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,352 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    All Serial Killers have horns.

    Well documented, just not on internet so don't waste your time looking.


  • Site Banned Posts: 68 ✭✭Fornevermore


    Callouses on hand and fingertips from all the clicking of the computer mouse.


    Jesus man. Have you any manners?

    I don't know I didn't take that much interest and genuinely cannot remember- she was just flicking through the pages and pointing to random places on palms. There was no 'I am a paedophile' in teeny tiny writing.

    You've provided useless information that you've backed up with nothing. Sort yourself out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    In a nutshell yes but forgive me but I did not take the time to note the persons exact qualifications or professional membership.

    Don't shoot the messenger. I am just relaying a 20 minute conversation I had 11 years ago. Might have been debunked as complete bollocks since for all I know. Judging by the age of the pictures and book it looked like a study going back many decades.

    It is something that somebody has taken the time to look into by all accounts. People carry out studies into all sorts of crazy stuff and I guess this is just one theory out there. I am not psychiatrist and I don't work in the field so I really have no more info on the topic.

    Dunno if she said anything about treatment or cures?

    If she did, what was her opinion?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    You've provided useless information that you've backed up with nothing. Sort yourself out.


    This is an internet forum. What do you expect? Footnotes with extensive links to all manner of online peer reviewed academic papers complete with bibliography.

    You want more info? Get it yourself sunshine.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Dunno if she said anything about treatment or cures?
    Treatment and cure.

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    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Dunno if she said anything about treatment or cures?

    If she did, what was her opinion?


    What I gathered from her is that there is no cure and I recall her comparison with rats & crows. They don't think like the rest of us so it is impossible for us to comprehend what goes through their mind. I think she also said something slightly wacky about them not being of this world and they did not belong here...words to that effect anyway. I just recall I was running late and rushing to leave.


  • Site Banned Posts: 68 ✭✭Fornevermore


    This is an internet forum. What do you expect? Footnotes with extensive links to all manner of online peer reviewed academic papers complete with bibliography.

    You want more info? Get it yourself sunshine.

    Just some basic information, that's all. You have nothing. Waste of space.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Just some basic information, that's all. You have nothing. Waste of space.


    Then stop wasting our time by replying then. Jesus wept.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Reviews and Books Galore


    First time I've heard about tgis guy and wish I didn't. Inhuman.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 68 ✭✭Fornevermore


    Then stop wasting our time by replying then. Jesus wept.

    You've wasted all out time. You could have posted nothing or at least said you have nothing of value to post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    a great day for the parish, if only it could happen more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭Ghetofarmulous


    **** him. I wanted him dead when I first read about him. Death penalty is good for a confessed child abuser. I used to think the death penalty was awful but now I would have it for a person like this. Get rid off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    You'd have to ask serious questions as to how this was left happen, a person of Huckle's status surely should of been on higher alert due to the nature of the crimes he committed.


    He should have been branded. All filth like him should be branded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭Fanny Wank


    I had a chat with a psychiatrist a few years back.

    She compared them to rats: everyone hates rats but rats are rats and rats do not see themselves as creatures of repulsion. They just go about their business in a 'normal' manner.

    Basically child abusers and guys like this really not normal human beings (ok hardly ground breaking) and are basically beyond redemption. There is no cure or treatment.

    Interestingly, she said that there are very specific markings seen in the palms of child abusers. Widely observed, written about, photographed and catalogued over many decades.

    Does she also believe in Phrenology?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Stevieluvsye



    Hmmmm

    I wonder amongst prisoners is raping a woman seen "above" as molesting a child


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Hmmmm

    I wonder amongst prisoners is raping a woman seen "above" as molesting a child

    “kiddyfiddling” means that you are inhuman and if at all possible you’re going to die. Painfully.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Stevieluvsye


    splinter65 wrote: »
    “kiddyfiddling” means that you are inhuman and if at all possible you’re going to die. Painfully.

    Personally i'd class raping a woman as bad as child molestation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,590 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    What I gathered from her is that there is no cure and I recall her comparison with rats & crows. They don't think like the rest of us so it is impossible for us to comprehend what goes through their mind. I think she also said something slightly wacky about them not being of this world and they did not belong here...words to that effect anyway. I just recall I was running late and rushing to leave.

    I would have been rushing to leave too. (and rushing to get a refund)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    He did more than rape a woman by the way, he also indecently assaulted a young girl, molested an elderly woman...oh yeah and he to wrote candidly about his love of rape.

    They actually had a lot in common really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    o1s1n wrote: »
    I would have been rushing to leave too. (and rushing to get a refund)


    To be fair I was not there as a paying client.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,372 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    In a nutshell yes but forgive me but I did not take the time to note the persons exact qualifications or professional membership.

    Don't shoot the messenger. I am just relaying a 20 minute conversation I had 11 years ago. Might have been debunked as complete bollocks since for all I know. Judging by the age of the pictures and book it looked like a study going back many decades.

    It is something that somebody has taken the time to look into by all accounts. People carry out studies into all sorts of crazy stuff and I guess this is just one theory out there. I am not psychiatrist and I don't work in the field so I really have no more info on the topic.


    If this was Germany in the years 1933 - 1945 regardless of what her professional qualifications are I would have been pretty sure the membership she had was in the Nazi party.
    They were big on this kind of physical stereotypical rubbish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭ldy4mxonucwsq6


    Well perhaps but why would you on such a pretty damn serious topic. She even pulled out a book with photographs of palms.

    There is a Scottish forensic anthropologist Sue Black who has developed a hand recognition technique to identify offenders from photos or videos (where their face isn't visible).

    Calluses, markings, veins etc, it has since been used successfully in court for these type of cases.

    Maybe that's what she was talking about?


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