Help I want to change my childs first name

cuddlebutt

Hello has anyone does this and can explain to me how I can do this ..
I want to change my daughters first name. We call her Connie for short but she is registered as Consuela, I want reguster her as Constance. I registered her as Consuela when she was two weeks old and I wasn't thinking straight with the triedness. I dislike the name now as she looks more like a Constance.
Love to hear personal experiences and how I go about it. I said it to our local registrar d she wasn't very helpful infact she laughed and said I have to do it by deed poll but didn't elaborate any further.
Do I need to contact a solicitor?
Thanks

Penfailed

cuddlebutt wrote: »

Hello has anyone does this and can explain to me how I can do this ..
I want to change my daughters first name. We call her Connie for short but she is registered as Consuela, I want reguster her as Constance. I registered her as Consuela when she was two weeks old and I wasn't thinking straight with the triedness. I dislike the name now as she looks more like a Constance.
Love to hear personal experiences and how I go about it. I said it to our local registrar d she wasn't very helpful infact she laughed and said I have to do it by deed poll but didn't elaborate any further.
Do I need to contact a solicitor?
Thanks

You have to do it by deed poll.

Murof

Is your surname Bananahammock?

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PsychoPete

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WTF the cartoon?

cuddlebutt

Penfailed wrote: »

You have to do it by deed poll.

Do you know how I go about this?

donegal_man

Citizens Information HERE

Courts Service page HERE

As with most legal matters it is perfectly possible to do it yourself if you feel confident in doing so.

cuddlebutt

Murof wrote: »

Is your surname Bananahammock?

Oh how very original

Blazer

easiest way is to get a solictor to do it for you unless you're living in Dublin.
You'll need to get signatures for the forms etc and take them to the high court.
If you're not living in Dublin or close by get a solictor unless you plan on wasting a whole day travelling to dublin and just waiting for your turn.
Note that you will need a copy of this deed poll for practically everything going forward be it for passport, licenses, school enrollments etc.
Had to do it for my son but we changed his surname.

collywobble7

You must have been exhausted

You might want to change your boards name while you’re at it

Useful information here but I don’t believe the birth cert itself can be altered now

http://www.courts.ie/Courts.ie/Library3.nsf/pagecurrent/075D7770C94358068025804B005C294B?opendocument&l=en

Salary Negotiator

For a first name you don’t need to go through deed poll, just start using the preferred name and that’s it.

cuddlebutt

Blazer wrote: »

easiest way is to get a solictor to do it for you unless you're living in Dublin.
You'll need to get signatures for the forms etc and take them to the high court.
If you're not living in Dublin or close by get a solictor unless you plan on wasting a whole day travelling to dublin and just waiting for your turn.
Note that you will need a copy of this deed poll for practically everything going forward be it for passport, licenses, school enrollments etc.
Had to do it for my son but we changed his surname.

Thankyou for your reply. I am in Wexford. Could I contact a local solicitor who works within family law? Why Dublin?
Thanks

cuddlebutt

collywobble7 wrote: »

You must have been exhausted

My grandfather was Spanish. It seemed fitting at the time.

drunkmonkey

Consuela is much prettier than constance.

Truckermal

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Consuela is much prettier than constance.

I'm confused as to how one could look like a Constance...

Cushtie

I've been going by a diffent first name than that on my birth cert. Basically was registered as one thing and then my parents just decided to start calling me by the Irish variant. since forever.

Passport. Driving licence. Pps number etc all in the diffent name version. Never ran into any difficulties with it.

drunkmonkey

Truckermal wrote: »

I'm confused as to how one could look like a Constance...

Constance sounds like Gretas sister, I don't like her, she sounds a bit painful. Consuela sounds like a pretty flamingo dancer.

Salary Negotiator

Cushtie wrote: »

I've been going by a diffent first name than that on my birth cert. Basically was registered as one thing and then my parents just decided to start calling me by the Irish variant. since forever.

Passport. Driving licence. Pps number etc all in the diffent name version. Never ran into any difficulties with it.

Exactly. First name is about use rather than what’s on the birth cert.

So once the Op starts using Constance on future ID docs it will eventually just become her child’s name.

Quandary

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Constance sounds like Gretas sister, I don't like her, she sounds a bit painful. Consuela sounds like a pretty flamingo dancer.

Was thinking the exact same thing.

Constance is a bit up herself. She's rude to serving staff and she isn't at all fond of dogs or children. Even though she's quite pretty, her perpetual scowl adds a harshness to an otherwise attractive face. Never a nice word to say about anyone either.

Consuela on the other hand is much more easy going. She's fun to be around and doesn't care what others think of her. She loves life and lives in the moment. Consuela really lights up a room and greets everyone with genuine heartfelt smile.

cuddlebutt

Quandary wrote: »

Was thinking the exact same thing.

Constance is a bit up herself. She's rude to serving staff and she isn't at all fond of dogs or children. Even though she's quite pretty, her perpetual scowl adds a harshness to an otherwise attractive face. Never a nice word to say about anyone either.

Consuela on the other hand is much more easy going. She's fun to be around and doesn't care what others think of her. She loves life and lives in the moment. Consuela really lights up a room and greets everyone with genuine heartfelt smile.

That made me laugh! Perhaps I should have another daughter and call her Constance.
Beautiful writing!

BDI

I don’t like either name. They strike me as trying too hard to be a Puritan. Call her Kate if you need a k/c sound at the start.

Kate’s a nice girl. Pretty but not showy. You one day help her do the dishes while you talk about Kelly and how bad she treats you and how you arnt even sure if she wants to date you. You scald your hand on the hot tap and yelp. Kate laughs no make up, smells abit like a damp dish cloth and washing up liquid. A snot bubble appears at her nostril for just a second. This just makes her laugh abit more. That’s the last time you will give Kelly anything more than courtesy.

ShaneU

You could just change it to Connie, everyone is doing the short name as full name thing now

cuddlebutt

ShaneU wrote: »

You could just change it to Connie, everyone is doing the short name as full name thing now

We call her Connie.

cuddlebutt

BDI wrote: »

I don’t like either name. They strike me as trying too hard to be a Puritan. Call her Kate if you need a k/c sound at the start.

Kate’s a nice girl. Pretty but not showy. You one day help her do the dishes while you talk about Kelly and how bad she treats you and how you arnt even sure if she wants to date you. You scald your hand on the hot tap and yelp. Kate laughs no make up, smells abit like a damp dish cloth and washing up liquid. A snot bubble appears at her nostril for just a second. This just makes her laugh abit more. That’s the last time you will give Kelly anything more than courtesy.

Haha my name is Kate! Pretty bit not showy. What can I say I am an unassuming beauty!

BDI

cuddlebutt wrote: »

Haha my name is Kate! Pretty bit not showy. What can I say I am an unassuming beauty!

I read that and could have swore you said you were Katie perry. I had to read it four or five times. You arnt her are you?

Quandary

Quandary wrote: »

Constance is a bit up herself. She's rude to serving staff and she isn't at all fond of dogs or children. Even though she's quite pretty, her perpetual scowl adds a harshness to an otherwise attractive face. Never a nice word to say about anyone either.
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Yeah but after midnight, wow, just wow :pac::pac::pac:

hullaballoo

Lads, calm down please. No need to lose the run of yourselves over a child's name thanks.

Esel

Go the whole hog - Constance Markievicz!

vector

cuddlebutt wrote: »

Do I need to contact a solicitor?
Thanks

A Soliciotor could get the template, insert the blanks, print on correct paper, provide the comm for oaths... but would you then still have to travel to Dublin to have it enrolled, or because the solr is a solr can they post it and vouch that they met you?

Lesalare

I just think of constipation when I hear Constance and I picture a rather stern sort banging her finger into a table to make a point with a pursed mouth.

Consuela evokes thoughts of Penelope Cruz, Spanish guitars, frilly dancing skirts, sunshine, gorgeous flowers etc etc.

Why don’t you just change it to Connie if that’s what you call her.

I’ve never got this whole thing of “His name is Michael but we’re going to call him Dave for the rest of his life” Just christen a child the name they will be known as. Nicknames come with time.

splinter65

My 85 year old mother is of a family of 6 none of whom have ever been known by the names on their birth certs. It’s not even a problem now when getting a passport.
Just call the child the name you like, don’t bother with the deed poll for a forename.

Eric Cartman

Truckermal wrote: »

I'm confused as to how one could look like a Constance...

unless the kid is once removed from the royal family and the OP and child live in the UK its a terrible name.

equally if theres an irish kid with irish parents names consuela then I feel really bad for that child.

nuac

Mod
Could we move on with this thread without discussing the aptness or otherwise of various first names?

Blazer

cuddlebutt wrote: »

Thankyou for your reply. I am in Wexford. Could I contact a local solicitor who works within family law? Why Dublin?
Thanks

hi sure..any local solicitor would be able to do it for you.

Afollower

You don't need to do a thing! Just put whatever name you want the child to be known as on everything. I've gone through my life being called an entirely different name to that on my Birth Cert. No problems whatsoever with Passport, Marriage Cert. etc.etc.

Roddylarge

I agree, don't do a thing.

My birth cert says Roderick, I have always been known as Roddy.
Everything I have from driving licence to passport to graduation parchments all say Roddy.

Just use Connie and forget about it.

From a legal perspective, and out of curiosity, are we agreed that you can't change the name on the birth cert itself? Obviously everything else, passport, Dr Lic etc can be created using a different first name with a little paper work, but the birth cert can't be changed?

drunkmonkey

Mod deletion.
See mod request upthread

FishOnABike

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Constance sounds like Gretas sister, I don't like her, she sounds a bit painful. Consuela sounds like a pretty flamingo dancer.

Sounds like a nice bird!

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

From a legal perspective, and out of curiosity, are we agreed that you can't change the name on the birth cert itself? Obviously everything else, passport, Dr Lic etc can be created using a different first name with a little paper work, but the birth cert can't be changed?

If no answers from the general community, would any Mods of the forum have a view on this? I'm just curious if your first name, once issued on a birth cert, could be changed?

If so, would change of gender be the only legal reason? I know there was lot's of talk in the past about changing gender from male/female; female/male etc and official documentation- would that include first name?

disposableFish

Afollower wrote: »

You don't need to do a thing! Just put whatever name you want the child to be known as on everything. I've gone through my life being called an entirely different name to that on my Birth Cert. No problems whatsoever with Passport, Marriage Cert. etc.etc.

Likely to cause problems in school.
Schools will normally accept a full name in place of another but won't accept a shortened version. Some teachers won't mind but many will insist on calling her consuela
(eg. David instead of James would go unnoticed, but Jimmy wouldn't be accepted unless it's on the birth-cert)

OP, you sound certain and have been given good info here so just go ahead and do it.
(The suggestion of officially changing Connie instead of Constance was reasonable and may suit your aims).

ohnonotgmail

Does this not apply directly to the OP?

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2004/act/3/enacted/en/print#sec25

25.—(1) Any registrar shall, on application to him or her in writing, in a form standing approved by an tArd-Chláraitheoir or a form to the like effect, by the parents, the surviving parent or the guardian of a child whose birth has been registered, on production to that registrar of such evidence as appears to him or her to be satisfactory and on payment to that registrar of the prescribed fee—


(a) if the forename of the child has been registered, change or alter the forename in the entry in the register or add a forename or forenames to the entry, or


(b) if the forename of the child has not been registered, register the forename of the child.


(2) Where a forename is changed, altered or registered or one or more forenames are added under subsection (1), the then existing entry concerned shall be retained in the register, the change, alteration, registration or addition shall be deemed for all purposes to be and always to have been part of the original entry and the forename or forenames in the register may not be further changed, altered or added to.

cuddlebutt

Roddylarge wrote: »

I agree, don't do a thing.

My birth cert says Roderick, I have always been known as Roddy.
Everything I have from driving licence to passport to graduation parchments all say Roddy.

Just use Connie and forget about it.

That's interesting. Thanks for reply I jyst thought on her passport it will have to say Consuela.

seamus

Deleted User wrote: »

If no answers from the general community, would any Mods of the forum have a view on this? I'm just curious if your first name, once issued on a birth cert, could be changed?

If so, would change of gender be the only legal reason? I know there was lot's of talk in the past about changing gender from male/female; female/male etc and official documentation- would that include first name?

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Does this not apply directly to the OP?

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2004/act/3/enacted/en/print#sec25

This answers both the OP and Plenty's question.

You can "change" the birth cert, but a record of originally registered name will always remain.

The birth register is never changed really, only updated. The facts as registered at the time of birth are always maintained.

My understanding is that whenever an individual applies for a copy of their birth cert that has been amended, details of the amendment are provided to them on a separate document.

cuddlebutt

Eric Cartman wrote: »

unless the kid is once removed from the royal family and the OP and child live in the UK its a terrible name.

equally if theres an irish kid with irish parents names consuela then I feel really bad for that child.

My Grandfather was spanish!!!

banie01

cuddlebutt wrote: »

My Grandfather was spanish!!!

Was his name Consuela tho?