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Funeral five pints 100k awarded

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,733 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Hi OP
    The article is about the award being appealed and it's going to be reheard.

    Apparently the judge was very lenient in the initial award.

    The fact that it is being reheard was the main thing I got from the article.

    How come their is no mention of it in your OP ?

    I just read the thread title and your lines and thought it was just another crazy insurance award and a thread about it.

    But when I read the article, it's different, it's about the appeal and the rehearing of the case.

    Was your intention always just to rant about the initial award ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,560 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    The guy still got the 30k awarded already and they've little chance of getting that back if things turn out different.

    Should the entire amount not have been held pending the appeal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    Always a payday here in Ireland when one can't take responsibility for their own actions. Always someone else's fault.. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,294 ✭✭✭LiamoSail


    If that scrounger wins the appeal, both himself and the awarding judge should be hounded.

    That scrounger and the original judge that awarded the compensation represent so much of what is wrong with this country.

    These parasites push up insurance and housing costs for the rest of us. Something has to change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,982 ✭✭✭minikin


    Surely all publicly funded housing could have a liability waiver (exculpatory clause) as part of any tenancy agreement.
    Current situation is insane.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭Prefect_1998


    Hi OP
    The article is about the award being appealed and it's going to be reheard.

    Apparently the judge was very lenient in the initial award.

    The fact that it is being reheard was the main thing I got from the article.

    How come their is no mention of it in your OP ?

    I just read the thread title and your lines and thought it was just another crazy insurance award and a thread about it.

    But when I read the article, it's different, it's about the appeal and the rehearing of the case.

    Was your intention always just to rant about the initial award ?

    Yes it was, why is it a rant? He has lived in the house for 9 years , he gets pissed and slips then the first thing he decides is to sue the local authority.

    The initial verdict affects every insurance holding person in this country


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭Prefect_1998


    minikin wrote: »
    Surely all publicly funded housing could have a liability waiver (exculpatory clause) as part of any tenancy agreement.
    Current situation is insane.



    Yes this is main point


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    given that "i'm going for a pint" invariably ends up with you having 3 pints minimum, we can extrapolate that this guy had at least 15 pints


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭dmc17


    given that "i'm going for a pint" invariably ends up with you having 3 pints minimum, we can extrapolate that this guy had at least 15 pints

    That was my first thought. There is going to be a tendency to understate the number. I had about 5 pints :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭Prefect_1998


    given that "i'm going for a pint" invariably ends up with you having 3 pints minimum, we can extrapolate that this guy had at least 15 pints

    After being given i presune a subsidised home for 9 years he has no problem sueing them... is is so messed up...

    Can i sue mr muscle because i washed my floor , it got wet and i slipped ? FFS


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭The Tetrarch


    Slipped and didn't spill a drop?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    marvin80 wrote: »

    Personal responsibility no longer exists, the bigger the clut, the bigger the pay day... sad times we are living in, when the honest guy who works hard has to cover this sort of nonsense


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    After being given i presune a subsidised home for 9 years he has no problem sueing them... is is so messed up...

    Can i sue mr muscle because i washed my floor , it got wet and i slipped ? FFS

    looked after by the state but wants a big wad of pocket money for falling over drunk in his free/subsidised gaff. a class act.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭LuasSimon


    If you get married and have 4 or 5 kids plus and neither parent works ... get as good as a free house .. either parent have a compo claim every 3/4 years ... your better off than many two income families paying a mortgage not to mention childcare not that many working families can afford more than 1 or 2 children .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    LuasSimon wrote: »
    If you get married and have 4 or 5 kids plus and neither parent works ... get as good as a free house .. either parent have a compo claim every 3/4 years ... your better off than many two income families paying a mortgage not to mention childcare not that many working families can afford more than 1 or 2 children .

    It couldn't be that simple Simon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,560 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    looked after by the state but wants a big wad of pocket money for falling over drunk in his free/subsidised gaff. a class act.

    Wonder how this large windfall will effect his subsidised gaff, not much I'd expect.

    Even the lower rates are still far below the norm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭Prefect_1998


    Varik wrote: »
    Wonder how this large windfall will effect his subsidised gaff, not much I'd expect.

    Even the lower rates are still far below the norm.

    Do you think there is any embarrisment on his part when lodging this claim ? Or its a case of see how kuch i can milk from this and have a laugh about it as a win over the council.

    That 100k could have been allocated to fix up 2 houses for homless families.

    We are in a suiation in this country where prickss feel its their right to sue everone for any reason.

    Does anyone know who pays the house insurance on a council house ?

    Will his premium go up when he goes to renew next year?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Force Carrier


    Five funeral awarded 100k pints


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    So wait, he slipped in his own home, and got awarded compo!

    Regardless of first ruling, country is an absolute joke!

    :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    falling over after a few pints

    absolute sham


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭daveorourke77


    Why do people slag off the whole country when these things happen?

    Why blame the country? The simple fact is there are three people at fault for these cases. The person who takes the case, the solicitor that acts on their behalf and the judge that awards them the excessive compensation.

    In simple terms we have a chancer (claimant), an ambulance chaser (claimants solicitor) and someone who has no idea how the real world works (the judge).

    Blame these people in future and leave the honest among us out of it.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,315 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Such fine members of the legal profession who take these cases on instead of giving these greedy slobberers the bum's rush the minute they come in the door.

    Sure why wouldnt they, when they get paid regardless? Win win, even lose win for all those very ethical solicitors.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Ol’ Funeral Five Pints, they call him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,501 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    On face value it's an insane award, but the article doesn't go into details.

    If the claimant bad been complaining to the council for years that the tiles were unreasonably slippery and unsafe and they did not resolve the issue then in my opinion he would have a case, however if he just fell and they were standard tiles then it's insane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,982 ✭✭✭minikin


    If the argument is that he knew about it for years, then he had prior knowledge of the risk and chose to ignore it... by, ya know, not putting down a matt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    On face value it's an insane award, but the article doesn't go into details.

    If the claimant bad been complaining to the council for years that the tiles were unreasonably slippery and unsafe and they did not resolve the issue then in my opinion he would have a case, however if he just fell and they were standard tiles then it's insane.

    I blame the council I do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Not sure if this was discussed

    But some guy got 100k awarded to him for slipping in his porch tiles after 5 pints. Is there a shame element missing from people to be able to have the neck sue the hand that feeds you.

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-awarded-105000-after-slip-at-his-own-local-authorty-home-told-his-case-will-be-reheard-956332.html

    Getting sick of this messed up country.

    As a comedian once said:

    'Its how you tell 'em'


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Something is not quite right here. Aside from the fact that the sponger was drunk and fell in his free home of 9 years, the Judge granting a stay on the award pending an appeal, but only if €30k was paid out immediately, that sounds pure dodgy. It reads to me like the Judge knew this was going to be appealed, but wanted said sponger to get something in the meantime. I haven't heard of that before tbh.

    I've no proof, but I'd like to know if there's some kind of connection between the sponger and the judge. This just seems like a crazy judgement, and the appeal judges are right insofar as the initial judge just ignoring that alcohol was a factor. Luckily, the new Judge has advised that legal costs will be paid by the sponger, but I really hope the Council demand that €30k back. Even if it's just €5 a week for the rest of his life, it's better than nothing.

    The neck of some people...


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Original judge is an absolute piece of shlt. These opportunists wouldn't exist without people like him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Lemonee_ wrote: »
    Well if you hadn't heard of it, then of course it must be true? It happens quite often to be honest, a recent example being the Ruth Morrissey judgment. To assert that there be a link between the judge and claimant because of that is ridiculous.

    **** me for not knowing everything, right? Christ, just because someone gives an opinion doesn't mean they believe it to be true. As I stated, and you quoted, I have never heard of it before, so I was giving my opinion on it. No need to re-word it that it was my truthful belief.

    I'm wary of everything, so if it's not black and white clear cut, I will make assumptions until proven otherwise, which you have done, so thank you, now I know. I spent most my life dealing with criminal law, so my apologies for not knowing the intricacies of civil law.

    Also, I didn't say that's what I believed, I pondered if there was some connection...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 823 ✭✭✭The chan chan man


    Don’t worry about it. I pay a couple of grand tax every month so these wetbrains don’t have to. It’s grand..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    So far I've read that the Council are to blame, the Judges are to blame and the solicitor is to blame when, in fact, the people to blame are us.
    We elect the legislators who appoint the judges and the council executives. We have elected the same government in all but name, for the last 100 years and this has led to the situation in which we find ourselves.
    We have reelected politicians to high office when it was blatantly obvious that they had questions to answer and saw them appointed to the highest levels in government, some are still in high positions in the Oireachtas. So until we clean up our own act and get off our arses to fight this corruption then the status quo will remain, politicians have no fear of us because we have shown such apathy when it comes to them, the capacity to change the system is in our own hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭decky1


    given that "i'm going for a pint" invariably ends up with you having 3 pints minimum, we can extrapolate that this guy had at least 15 pints

    Have drank a good sup in my time and hear all these stories of 'I drank 15 pints last night' i have yet to see anyone drink that amount in one go, was told by a guy last week that his brother drank 25 pints in one session that a lot of liquid , are these the guys that go to the jacks and throw the lot up and start again [know a few of them too] and who goes out for a drink and is able to keep track of what they drink they must be a fun lot.:confused:


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