Help me choose a bangernomics!

yobr

The trusty focus is dying so I need a replacement. I thought i'd have more cash but alas not...

The options are

a nice looking jetta

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/08-volkswagen-jetta-1-6-patrol-nct-4-20/22966026

A 407 with a warranty..

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2008-peugeot-407-1-7nct-02-2012-month-warranty/22748818

A laguna

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2006-laguna-nct-to-feb-2020-high-spec-model/22911110

A focus

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/focus-1-4-ghia-brand-new-nct-03-20taxed/23107011

An avensis

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-toyota-avensis-t3-2-0-diesel-nct-amp-tax-895/23015599

Any thoughts....open to other suggestions too...thanks

ba_barabus

Out of that lot the Focus. What's your needs, wants and requirements.

colm_mcm

Not the Jetta anyway.

Or the Laguna or 406.

Jesus you have some taste in cars. The Focus is probably the least risky of them, but they’re dog slow and so dull.

SCOOP 64

Out of those it would be the Jetta or focus for me, tax reasonable, but like the look of the Jetta think i would look at that first.

punisher5112

Everything is petrol but the avensi....???

Any reason behind so much different types, styles and petrol/diesel.

ba_barabus

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

Out of those it would be the Jetta or focus for me, tax reasonable, but like the look of the Jetta think i would look at that first.

The 1.6 petrol is a dog.

SCOOP 64

ba_barabus wrote: »

The 1.6 petrol is a dog.

The Focus for me then.

yobr

ba_barabus wrote: »

Out of that lot the Focus. What's your needs, wants and requirements.

Reliable, low costs, gets from a to b, car is a placeholder for a year till i’ve more cash to spend.

yobr

punisher5112 wrote: »

Everything is petrol but the avensi....???

Any reason behind so much different types, styles and petrol/diesel.

Looking for reliability, low costs, and NCT into next year.

yobr

colm_mcm wrote: »

Not the Jetta anyway.

Or the Laguna or 406.

Jesus you have some taste in cars. The Focus is probably the least risky of them, but they’re dog slow and so dull.

Agreed its not very exciting but neither is my budget at the moment. As i said im open to suggestions. Thanks.

ba_barabus

I'd recommend something like this with the proviso that it comes with a new NCT. If it does then great

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-1-4-vvti-2006/23110368

krissovo

The 407 for me :eek: But I am a sucker for high tax cars.

They actually have a bit of life behind the wheel and drive quite well, the looks are better than the cookie cutter drab of the Jetta / Focus / Avensis.

My head says the Focus is a safer bet and true banagernomics but I feel there are some better options out there.

colm_mcm

yobr wrote: »

Looking for reliability, low costs, and NCT into next year.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla/23120053

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-toyota-corolla/23116968

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-1-4-vvti-2006/23110368

colm_mcm

Mileage on this!
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-only-15800-miles/23100458

punisher5112

colm_mcm wrote: »

Mileage on this!
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-only-15800-miles/23100458

Can't see that lasting long

krissovo

From a 5 minute check here is my pick with your budget, its a bit quirky but at least its not Toyota recommendation (or Skoda) :-) . Has a bit of warranty and a decent enough NCT.... A saab 9-3

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-9-3-2006-new-nct-trade-in-clearance/23073356?campaign=3

colm_mcm

Mmm ecotec non turbo. It’s on sale 5 days, probably due another cambelt so!

ba_barabus

That Saab looks shagged.

krissovo

ba_barabus wrote: »

That Saab looks shagged.

I just seen the big dented scratch on the rear panel, yep it’s fecked.

bazz26

For what its worth, the Focus in the OP's original list is 1.6 litre and not 1.4 litre as claimed by the seller. They never offered the Ghia trim here in the Mk2 with a 1.4 litre engine.

yobr

bazz26 wrote: »

For what its worth, the Focus in the OP's original list is 1.6 litre and not 1.4 litre as claimed by the seller. They never offered the Ghia trim here in the Mk2 with a 1.4 litre engine.

Good point. i was mildly suspicious when the reg number was not fully shown.

colm_mcm

The 1.6 makes it more appealing in my view. I’m suspicious of the timing belt/water pump done last week and hidden reg though.

ExoPolitic

colm_mcm wrote: »

The 1.6 makes it more appealing in my view. I’m suspicious of the timing belt/water pump done last week and hidden reg though.

I NEVER buy anything that they've hidden the reg. What's to hide?

punisher5112

ExoPolitic wrote: »

I NEVER buy anything that they've hidden the reg. What's to hide?

Usually so it can't be cloned but sometimes for other dubious reasons...

This is the mentality of it.

terrydel

ba_barabus wrote: »

Out of that lot the Focus. What's your needs, wants and requirements.

Yep, cheapest to run and maintain.
The luguna is second gen I think so dreadful reputation.
Imagine paying over 900 bills a year to tax that peugeot?! It would break your heart.

terrydel

ba_barabus wrote: »

I'd recommend something like this with the proviso that it comes with a new NCT. If it does then great

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-1-4-vvti-2006/23110368

We have one, boring but comfortable enough and does the job. As reliable as you'll get for the money. Make sure its been looked after, ours need 300 quid worth of work recently as previous owner had kept it visually immaculate but mechanically less so.

mankteln

What do people feel is the issue(s) with the Jetta? Just curious as I've wondered what they're like myself

ba_barabus

mankteln wrote: »

What do people feel is the issue(s) with the Jetta? Just curious as I've wondered what they're like myself

The engine. Nothing wrong with a diesel Jetta though.

colm_mcm

terrydel wrote: »

Yep, cheapest to run and maintain.
The luguna is second gen I think so dreadful reputation.
Imagine paying over 900 bills a year to tax that peugeot?! It would break your heart.

Tax is 636 on it. Ad is wrong.

punisher5112

ba_barabus wrote: »

The engine. Nothing wrong with a diesel Jetta though.

It's petrol though???

colm_mcm

It’s got a heap of owners on the book which to me is always a sign that it hasn’t been maintained.
Last change of ownership a month ago.

Also, while the 1.6 8 valve engine is smooth and quiet, it’s quite slow and not especially reliable. I’ll eat my hat if it actually has a full service history.

It does look tidy in the pictures to be fair.

ba_barabus

punisher5112 wrote: »

It's petrol though???

I know. My point is the petrol engine in that one is rubbish, a diesel Jetta would be fine.

Dravokivich

colm_mcm wrote: »

Tax is 636 on it. Ad is wrong.

A few 1.7l petrol from 2008 taxed on emissions seems to be 750.

colm_mcm

Dravokivich wrote: »

A few 1.7l petrol from 2008 taxed on emissions seems to be 750.

Well yeah, they would be if their emissions were a certain figure,

That car was registered early in 2008, so is on cc tax, which is cheaper in this case.

yobr

colm_mcm wrote: »

Not the Jetta anyway.

Or the Laguna or 406.

Jesus you have some taste in cars. The Focus is probably the least risky of them, but they’re dog slow and so dull.

What is the issue with the Laguna? I know they had issues with window regulators, anything else?

ba_barabus

yobr wrote: »

What is the issue with the Laguna? I know they had issues with window regulators, anything else?

Electrics, suspension, dephayser pulleys on the engine and general build quality. They're just too much of a risk as them is end of the budget.

selectamatic

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/subaru-impreza-estate-fsh-nct-6-20-1495/23131804

If ya don't mind the tax this could be a left of field option.

Others to consider would be a petrol accord, civic, corolla or Avensis.

Get something with a reasonably long test and bring a trusted person/mechanic to give any prospective purchase the once over.

yobr

ba_barabus wrote: »

Electrics, suspension, dephayser pulleys on the engine and general build quality. They're just too much of a risk as them is end of the budget.

Fair enough, I sorta like the shape of them but as you suggest too much of risk..

yobr

ba_barabus wrote: »

Electrics, suspension, dephayser pulleys on the engine and general build quality. They're just too much of a risk as them is end of the budget.

Did the post 2006 models improve? A fair few diesels around of the 08 onwards vintage.

colm_mcm

yobr wrote: »

Did the post 2006 models improve? A fair few diesels around of the 08 onwards vintage.

Yep, the ones with black headlights.

ba_barabus

yobr wrote: »

Did the post 2006 models improve? A fair few diesels around of the 08 onwards vintage.

Yes but it's very hard to recommend any Laguna 2. A Laguna 3 is a different story and very well built.

terrydel

yobr wrote: »

Fair enough, I sorta like the shape of them but as you suggest too much of risk..

Later model has a much better reputation
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-laguna-1-5-dci-estate-dynamique/22330025

Gonad

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/23109344

yobr

Gonad wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/23109344

Thats on my radar...