Weanlings with snots on there nose

cacs

I have a bunch of weanlings that are weaned about 1 month. They are back out three weeks they all have snots on there noses. To look at they are 100% grazing eating nuts no temperatures. Other years I have give them respichlor. I think it is a viral lungs infection. I am tempted to leave them this year and see how they go. I am trying to reduce antibiotics and I have a feeling they might clear up if I keep a close eye on them any experience of this, any advice.

gerryirl

i always do them with Rispoval and IBR I think there called. Its not cheap but honestly its well worth it. A few visits from the vet wouldnt be long mounting up

Did you do them for lungworms/fluke

cacs

Yea I have them all done with ivermectin a month ago. Yea ibr could be the thing alright

cacs

I have vaccinated in the past with rspv and phenomena vaccine I didn’t see any difference

gerryirl

cacs wrote: »

I have vaccinated in the past with rspv and phenomena vaccine I didn’t see any difference

but did any get sick

cacs

Yea they got the snotty noses even with the vaccine. None have really got sick have usually treated them with respichlor. Now have bought weanlings in the past and they have cleared up themselves. That’s why I thinking of holding and see can they fight it before I dive in with antibiotics

cacs

Yea they got the snotty noses even with the vaccine. None have really got sick have usually treated them with respichlor. Now have bought weanlings in the past and they have cleared up themselves. That’s why I thinking of holding and see can they fight it before I dive in with antibiotics

alps

cacs wrote: »

Yea I have them all done with ivermectin a month ago. Yea ibr could be the thing alright

Latest studies on antimicrobial resistance is showing up to 100% resistance to ivermectin. Lowest resistance was to levicide..

Unfortunately had weanlings done with ivermectin and gone to outside grazing when I got this info...

gerryirl

cacs wrote: »

Yea they got the snotty noses even with the vaccine. None have really got sick have usually treated them with respichlor. Now have bought weanlings in the past and they have cleared up themselves. That’s why I thinking of holding and see can they fight it before I dive in with antibiotics

I used to do them every year. One year like you I said it was crazy to so didnt. Boy did I regret it. When I added all up it cost me more in the long run. Maybe I was really unlucky though

Aravo

gerryirl wrote:

i always do them with Rispoval and IBR I think there called. Its not cheap but honestly its well worth it. A few visits from the vet wouldnt be long mounting up

+1 for Rospoval. A double shot. Makes all the difference, especially in these days, one day its roasting the next is cold and the next very wet.

Muckit

cacs wrote: »

I have a bunch of weanlings that are weaned about 1 month. They are back out three weeks they all have snots on there noses. To look at they are 100% grazing eating nuts no temperatures. Other years I have give them respichlor. I think it is a viral lungs infection. I am tempted to leave them this year and see how they go. I am trying to reduce antibiotics and I have a feeling they might clear up if I keep a close eye on them any experience of this, any advice.

I think stick to your plan. I know from buying in weanlings that they can come good without treatment. Once they're eating and thriving and otherwise healthy leave well enough alone.

Are you keeping them on or are you planning on selling them soon?

amacca

cacs wrote: »

Yea I have them all done with ivermectin a month ago. Yea ibr could be the thing alright

savage conditions here for grass growth but worms a flukes it seems too

Ive never had a year like it for weanlings with lungworm......dosed 40 of them about 4 weeks ago with albex and it cleared up the coughing but need to go again now....theyre back nearly to being as bad again

I was advised to hit them again, can't ever remember needing to do that after such a short interval

is there a problem getting levacide now

gerryirl

yes worst year in along time ive seen for lungworms too. Nearly lost a store after doing them. got pneunmoia as he couldnt get them up. he did everything but die. cost 200 to keep him alive. Larry will be so happy I did

cacs

Muckit wrote: »

I think stick to your plan. I know from buying in weanlings that they can come good without treatment. Once they're eating and thriving and otherwise healthy leave well enough alone.

Are you keeping them on or are you planning on selling them soon?

I am going to keep them to stores sell them then. I only have lmx crosses sold the last few heifers today sold the bullocks a month ago. Overall i am very happy with them they hit good weights and got €2.00 to €2.10 per kg weight gain was savage this year. I know i had to keep them an extra year. Grass fed since 22 of feb no nuts. When you rear them yourself breed as good of quality as you can and manage your grass you still make a few bob even with the current mess.

Limestone Cowboy

gerryirl wrote: »

yes worst year in along time ive seen for lungworms too. Nearly lost a store after doing them. got pneunmoia as he couldnt get them up. he did everything but die. cost 200 to keep him alive. Larry will be so happy I did

I did my calves with albex a month ago and had to go in again 2 weeks later with levacide. They were coughing like mad but the levacide cleared them up almost straight away. Vet is always telling me not to use ivermectin on young stock so I try not to.

cacs

I think there is ivermectin in levacide. The injection is gone of the market

Lime Tree Farm

cacs wrote: »

I think there is ivermectin in levacide. The injection is gone of the market

Levamisole only in Levacide.

What puts me off Levacide is 1 ml / 10 kg injection. Levamisole is also produced in other formats, a drench (2 strengths available), a pour on and injection form. Availability of product is another matter.

Limestone Cowboy

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

cacs wrote: »

I think there is ivermectin in levacide. The injection is gone of the market

Levamisole only in Levacide.

What puts me off Levacide is 1 ml / 10 kg injection. Levamisole is also produced in other formats, a drench (2 strengths available), a pour on and injection form. Availability of product is another matter.

Ya it was the drench I used. Found it very good and its watery too so flows easy through the dosing gun. Cheap as well.

Track9

cacs wrote: »

I have a bunch of weanlings that are weaned about 1 month. They are back out three weeks they all have snots on there noses. To look at they are 100% grazing eating nuts no temperatures. Other years I have give them respichlor. I think it is a viral lungs infection. I am tempted to leave them this year and see how they go. I am trying to reduce antibiotics and I have a feeling they might clear up if I keep a close eye on them any experience of this, any advice.

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Fair dues for being on the ball with dosing.
We had same problem with the snotty noses .
Our expereince was they got over it , in a week or so , but kept outside.
Found out our animals have Ivermectin Resistance . So we used Levafas Diamond & happy with that . What might save a lot of effort which our vet advised.
TFirst take Dung Sample & vet gets sample tested & then advises what we need to dose for . In pur case the problem was Rumen Fluke & we had to use old fashioned White Dose for that .
Best of Luck . P

patsy_mccabe

I have a weanling here that keeps coughing even though he was dosed twice. I suspect a resistance to Ivermectins built up over the years. Overdosing creates it's own problems, it seems.

gerryirl

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I have a weanling here that keeps coughing even though he was dosed twice. I suspect a resistance to Ivermectins built up over the years. Overdosing creates it's own problems, it seems.

I heard someone saying some of the white doses are not working this and to try the yellow ones

amacca

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I have a weanling here that keeps coughing even though he was dosed twice. I suspect a resistance to Ivermectins built up over the years. Overdosing creates it's own problems, it seems.

I was under the impression it was under dosing was the real problem

Lads skimping = some of the worms surviving and successive generations developing tolerance.

Lime Tree Farm

I think with underdosing the worms survive and build up resistance to the product, and with overdosing, the animal as it matures it wont have built up its resistance to worms.