WFP renewal amount

Missy99

I'm renewing my wfp last year was my first year
I work 20 hours for 9.80ph

I recieved my renewal form and I've collected my latest payslips but during the year I had to do extra shifts at work
So many weeks during busy periods i done maybe 30 hours

But now I'm back to my normal 20

My question is will my gross income do date reflect my new payment amount? I've calculated it and it will be considerable less if it does
It was only during busy times I had to work more when there was staff shortages

I'll be very short if those numbers are what they base my new payment on especially as they aren't indicative of my situation now.

Has anyone any experience or information they could share with me

Portsalon

Missy99 wrote: »

I'm renewing my wfp last year was my first year
I work 20 hours for 9.80ph

I recieved my renewal form and I've collected my latest payslips but during the year I had to do extra shifts at work
So many weeks during busy periods i done maybe 30 hours

But now I'm back to my normal 20

My question is will my gross income do date reflect my new payment amount? I've calculated it and it will be considerable less if it does
It was only during busy times I had to work more when there was staff shortages

I'll be very short if those numbers are what they base my new payment on especially as they aren't indicative of my situation now.

Has anyone any experience or information they could share with me

Officially:

The Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection (DEASP) calculates your assessable earnings over a certain period of time.

Because WFP is paid over 52 weeks the DEASP tries to calculate your average earnings over a similar period of time. Normally they will use your latest P60 or your gross earnings up to the date of your application. If you are newly in employment, your average weekly income is calculated from when you started work with that employer.

Your P60 is also used to calculate your average weekly income when your claim is being renewed. If your spouse, civil partner or cohabitant is self-employed, his or her income over the 12-month period before you lodge your claim is used to work out his or her average weekly income.

So the Department considers three bits of information in determining your average weekly rate of pay:

(i) the pay information provided by your employer regarding your rate of pay.

(ii) your cumulative pay year to date on your latest payslip which is divided by the number of weeks worked.

(iii) your last year's P 60, divideing the total pay by 52.

When taken together, these figures give the Department a pretty accurate indicator of your average weekly pay level over a year.

lauren92

I received approval letter from WFP yesterday. My payment is miniscule as my means is calculated on gross to date. I worked full time for the first half of this year. I understand that there's nothing I can do there.

My problem is with my maintenance payment. I get 125 a week from my sons father. All of which goes towards my rent. I filled out the form stating that I have somebody contributing to the house so the form was filled correctly but it seems to have been means tested as income although I read that 95 or so of maintenance can be offset for rent? Anybody have a problem with this before?

I have tried calling the number on the form but no answer there and I can't make out the deciding officers name on the letter

wifey28

lauren92 wrote: »

I received approval letter from WFP yesterday. My payment is miniscule as my means is calculated on gross to date. I worked full time for the first half of this year. I understand that there's nothing I can do there.

My problem is with my maintenance payment. I get 125 a week from my sons father. All of which goes towards my rent. I filled out the form stating that I have somebody contributing to the house so the form was filled correctly but it seems to have been means tested as income although I read that 95 or so of maintenance can be offset for rent? Anybody have a problem with this before?

I have tried calling the number on the form but no answer there and I can't make out the deciding officers name on the letter

As far as i know you have to show proof that the maintenece is being paid into a mortgage account to have it offset, if its being paid direct to you then i believe it is all assessed as means


You also cannot offset any of the maintence if youve done so for another welfare payment

AulWan

The maintenance disregard against housing costs only applies to certain benefits, e.g. one parent family payment or disability allowance.

It doesn't apply to WFP.

Forthebuzz

AulWan wrote: »

The maintenance disregard against housing costs only applies to certain benefits, e.g. one parent family payment or disability allowance.

It doesn't apply to WFP.

Not true, there's a maintenence disregard of 95.23 against housing costs since this year for wfp

AulWan

Forthebuzz wrote: »

Not true, there's a maintenence disregard of 95.23 against housing costs since this year for wfp

Then that must be new, because up to last year there was no disregard for WFP.

Edited to add: From the operarational guidelines:
If you are getting maintenance, a maintenance disregard of €95.23 per week for housing costs, with the remainder assessed at 50% was introduced in March 2019 to bring it in line with other social assistance schemes. You can only avail of the maintenance disregard on one scheme.

OP, you may have a quicker response emailing (WFPRenewals@welfare.ie) then calling on the phone, but if you do, use the landline number (043-3340053) rather then the Locall number if using a mobile phone.

lauren92

wifey28 wrote: »

As far as i know you have to show proof that the maintenece is being paid into a mortgage account to have it offset, if its being paid direct to you then i believe it is all assessed as means


You also cannot offset any of the maintence if youve done so for another welfare payment

Thanks for all the replies. Only getting around to seeing them now. Iv emailed them hopefully will hear back soon enough. I'm not claiming any other payments so haven't used it anywhere else. I haven't got a mortgage so don't have a mortgage account to prove that. It says if you have somebody contributing to the household, mortgage/rent/school fees. Hopefully will get it sorted

easytiger2009

@lauren92


Quick question if you don't mind OP, or anyone who else who has experience applying for WFP.

Can you be on jobseekers payment (along with working 20 hours a week) in order to apply for WFP?

I've checked the welfare site and it says you can't.

Bit confused as wouldn't everyone working part time also be on jobseekers?

wifey28

easytiger2009 wrote: »

@lauren92


Quick question if you don't mind OP, or anyone who else who has experience applying for WFP.

Can you be on jobseekers payment (along with working 20 hours a week) in order to apply for WFP?

I've checked the welfare site and it says you can't.

Bit confused as wouldn't everyone working part time also be on jobseekers?

No you cannot


You can claim one or the other. Wfp is for families with a low income.

Jobseekers is more aimed for single people whove had hours cut or are casual workers.

AulWan

You can't claim both but you can ask SW to assess you for WFP and if it works out financially to be of more benefit to you can drop your claim for jobseekers.

easytiger2009

AulWan wrote: »

You can't claim both but you can ask SW to assess you for WFP and if it works out financially to be of more benefit to you can drop your claim for jobseekers.

Thanks.

I know I can't claim both. The way I read the rules on the SW site was if you were on JS you can't apply for WFP fullstop.

I'll pop in to SW this week and suss it out.

Thanks again.