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Need to have log book for NCT?

  • 19-09-2019 3:17pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,688 ✭✭✭


    Is this needed? Didn't think so.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭davo2001


    People will say yes, but I've never brought mine and it's always been fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭markc1184


    Last time I brought my car I was asked for mine. They wouldn't hand over the nct cert until it was shown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Depends on who you meet at the other side of the counter. I'd rather bring it and not need than need it and not have it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    zweton wrote: »
    Is this needed? Didn't think so.


    It is needed. It's one of the requirements needed to receive a new Cert.
    https://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Your-Vehicle/Your-Vehicle-/Preparing-for-your-NCT-/
    Having said that, it's not always asked for and even if you don't have it on the day they will still test the Car but won't give you the new Cert until you show them the VLC.


    In other words as Bazz said, it depends who you meet. But if you meet somebody who looks for it then you won't be getting a new Cert until they see it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭Reati


    mgbgt1978 wrote: »
    It is needed. It's one of the requirements needed to receive a new Cert.
    https://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Your-Vehicle/Your-Vehicle-/Preparing-for-your-NCT-/
    Having said that, it's not always asked for and even if you don't have it on the day they will still test the Car but won't give you the new Cert until you show them the VLC.


    In other words as Bazz said, it depends who you meet. But if you meet somebody who looks for it then you won't be getting a new Cert until they see it.

    Exactly. I've been asked for it and not at the same centre. The one I use now always asks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I forgot to bring it last time and was asked.
    Car was tested and I had to go home and find the logbook before they would hand over the cert.

    You may not be asked but yes, it is required. Read the link above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    I forgot once, and was asked, and they still gave me a cert - but this was maybe 5 years ago so they might have got stricter since then.

    As others have said, it is supposed to be a requirement. Whether you'll get away without it may be up to their discretion on the day (and they're not supposed to do this).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭FDave


    I find that they only ask if the vehicle has changed ownership since the last NCT. I haven't brought a log book to a NCT centre for several tests buy if i changed car id definitely bring it to the first one. As mentioned though they can still ask.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭Andrewf20


    Logbook as in the vrc? I've never been asked for it in 15 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭pippip


    I've been asked every time I've been.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭Capra


    I have been tested in 4 different centres over the years and never once been asked for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    If my friend has exactly the same car as me and similar mileage, what is to stop me changing the plates and gettin an nct for mine?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Done two at NorthPoint. Wasn't asked either time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭michellie


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    If my friend has exactly the same car as me and similar mileage, what is to stop me changing the plates and gettin an nct for mine?

    Vin number


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 475 ✭✭mickuhaha


    As far as I am aware. They are ment to ask for it to prove you are in rightful possession of the car and are able to sign for any liability in relation to it. But the guys working there are under such pressure they might sometimes forget or let you off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    michellie wrote: »
    Vin number

    Can they check without the log book?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,831 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    I offered it last time I went in, (June). Was told they don't need it anymore cos its all on the computer, but they needed my drivers licence... (weirdly, it was my girlfriends car.. So my ID, didn't prove much)

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭michellie


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Can they check without the log book?

    The Nct staff have to enter the VIN as per your car onto the computer during the test, if it doesn't match up with the reg on the car its flagged. You would then be asked to provide the log book and if you don't the test wont continue as it's obvious it's not the right car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    michellie wrote: »
    The Nct staff have to enter the VIN as per your car onto the computer during the test, if it doesn't match up with the reg on the car its flagged. You would then be asked to provide the log book and if you don't the test wont continue as it's obvious it's not the right car.

    Never seen them do this.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    They always enter the VIN into their Computer. This is done at the very beginning of the test.... At the same place where the emissions & lights are tested.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭michellie


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Never seen them do this.......

    You wouldn't unless you worked there or followed the tester up the lane....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭TheTomahawk


    I've been asked some times and not others. One time when I was asked and handed it over it turned out I had grabbed the wrong piece of paper and just had the cover. She girl kinda rolled her eyes but let it go.

    So, yeah, have it with you in case they ask for it. They can refuse to perform the NCT of you some have it (and you won't get a refund).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    michellie wrote: »
    You wouldn't unless you worked there or followed the tester up the lane....

    In Galway they can be observed through windows..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Markcheese wrote: »
    I offered it last time I went in, (June). Was told they don't need it anymore cos its all on the computer, but they needed my drivers licence... (weirdly, it was my girlfriends car.. So my ID, didn't prove much)

    You need to bring photo id and the VLC to the test, it's on the appointment email and their website. The stupid thing is that they'll accept a passport for id when it's a legal requirement to carry your driving licence when driving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭TheTomahawk


    Del2005 wrote: »
    The stupid thing is that they'll accept a passport for id when it's a legal requirement to carry your driving licence when driving.

    You say that as if they won't accept your driver's licence as ID (which they will, of course).

    But you're right, you should have you driver's licence with you, so you shouldn't need any other form of ID. I suppose the Passport is a universal form of ID, so they kinda have to accept it. They can't limit themselves to just a driver's licence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    In Galway they can be observed through windows..


    ...same in nearly all of the larger Test Centres.
    And if you look at the Tester at the 1st station you will see him/her check the VIN number. It's literally Item no. 1 in the NCT Manual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,282 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Used to always bring cars for an nct be it customers or retail cars, never once asked for a logbook. It's all on the computer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    Del2005 wrote: »
    You need to bring photo id and the VLC to the test, it's on the appointment email and their website. The stupid thing is that they'll accept a passport for id when it's a legal requirement to carry your driving licence when driving.


    It doesn't need to be the driver who actually goes up to the counter to present the vehicle for Testing.

    Eg. if the 5 people behind me in the queue don't have any ID then I can present every one of their Cars for Testing (assuming I have ID).
    Not saying that it's a particularly meaningful system, in fact just pointing out how ridiculous it can be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    PsychoPete wrote: »
    Used to always bring cars for an nct be it customers or retail cars, never once asked for a logbook. It's all on the computer


    You can be sure it wasn't the NCT crowd themselves who brought in this rule.
    Probably some idiot in the RSA who doesn't even know how their own databases work ;).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭michellie


    Passports aren't accepted anymore due to data protection . It's only licence or that green public service card. I can see that public service card being removed too due to data protection.

    Too many people don't have their licences. Some dont even know what they are, its ridiculous


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