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DUP Thrown Under The Bus

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  • 19-09-2019 3:03am
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    Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭


    It's happened.
    The people. with no negociating skills have been thrown out.
    UK will leave EU with a withdrawal agreement.
    UK has thrown DUP under the bus.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    UK will sell it as ... NI to UK ... no customs
    NI to ROI... no customs.
    That's the sell .. sell.
    Obviously, there has to be a border between EU and non EU countries. But the words will be changed (no backstop) and blah blah. DUP will be shown as idiots and of course increase their support up in loopyland.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,359 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Scoondal wrote: »
    It's happened.
    The people. with no negociating skills have been thrown out.
    UK will leave EU with a withdrawal agreement.
    UK has thrown DUP under the bus.
    So far, nothing has happened!


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,558 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Not sure the reasoning behind this thread. All of the evidence so far suggests that the Tories have decided the border will be on the island, not the sea. They are rowing back from commitments made by May and are now talking about minimal checks as opposed to no checks. The EU are frustrated at the fact no proposals have been put forward.

    There seems to be only two scenarios: 1) they are putting forward nothing because the ultimate plan is to go with a NI-only backstop. 2) They are putting forward nothing because they have nothing.

    Option two is looking increasingly likely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    DUP now supporting an Irish Sea border. They are being thrown under the bus gently.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I thought the DUP had the whip hand - controlling whether this new proposal will remain every four years despite representing a minority view on Brexit.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    I thought the DUP had the whip hand - controlling whether this new proposal will remain every four years despite representing a minority view on Brexit.

    EU will throw that out. Will not happen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,524 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    It depends on your perspective OP, many would argue, that whatever happens, the DUP have had an excessively forceful contribution on the Brexit process and have gained funding from the central government and verbal statements of support as to the importance of the Union from successive PM's.

    Others would argue they have been manipulated throughout and have been shown to be entirely self-serving, ignorant of the majority of opinions in the north, have lost the battle in the north in relation to abortion, have alienated business, farming and policing communities and been shown to be entirely capable on focusing on the need for a devolved government in the north because of a fear of what that would mean to them and their supporters.

    And, if you are actually a member of the DUP, you think that this has shown just how underhand the Irish Government is, how important unionists are to the structure of the United Kingdom and how a No Deal will enable you to point the finger of blame down the road to Dublin.

    No matter what happens, they will never acknowledge that they have been thrown under a bus and more so, they probably will probably steadfastly believe their own words and become more entrenched in their hatred of engagement with the nationalist community and the Irish government. Should there be a border, and should there be conflict as a result of it, the DUP's MO will switch to demanding direct rule from Westminster and I would not be surprised to see their supporters behave to help bring that about.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    They completely over played their importance

    They could have got May's deal over the line and Brexit would have been achieved


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,162 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Below standard and off topic posts deleted.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    They completely over played their importance

    They could have got May's deal over the line and Brexit would have been achieved
    It is what happens when small parties get notions and assume that nobody can best them. Boris has his eye on getting a majority and dispensing with the need for annoying smaller partners.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    It's been said the DUP have more to fear from English nationalists than Irish ones


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    https://twitter.com/BBCMarkSimpson/status/1186263091178291202

    Narrators voice: There were, in fact, many buses.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Gintonious wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/BBCMarkSimpson/status/1186263091178291202

    Narrators voice: There were, in fact, many buses.

    I wonder were the Iona institute up there supporting the DUP?


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