17" gaming laptop budget €1500

machalla

Does anyone have any suggestions for a 17" gaming laptop with a budget in the region of €1,500 approximately? No os required or hard disks really (there are plenty of spares about that can be used for this).

I'm considering pc specialist as you can spec a machine without the os and hard disk that you don't require.

Ideally the graphics card will be nvidia 1060 or 2060 spec.

Any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks.

these guys probably have the best prices

https://www.box.co.uk/laptops/sort/1/refine/46565~144424$46567~199498$46567~200191$47295~148175

2060 > 1660ti > 1060

Homelander

If it doesn't need to be 17" you can get 15" RTX2060 laptops for as low as 999 pounds. Like this one, great cpu, 16gb ram, 512gb nvme ssd + RTX2060. Don't get a 1060, they are completely obsolete. Bare minimum should be 1660ti for new gaming machine.

https://www.box.co.uk/FX505DV-AL014T-ASUS-FX505DV-AL014T_2601653.html

Vikings

machalla wrote: »

Does anyone have any suggestions for a 17" gaming laptop with a budget in the region of €1,500 approximately? No os required or hard disks really (there are plenty of spares about that can be used for this).

I'm considering pc specialist as you can spec a machine without the os and hard disk that you don't require.

Ideally the graphics card will be nvidia 1060 or 2060 spec.

Any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks.

There's a sale on this Dell G7 which supposedly ends today:

https://www.dell.com/en-ie/shop/gaming-and-games/dell-g7-17-gaming-laptop/spd/g-series-17-7790-laptop/cng7716

It's down to 1,399 and if you can find a way to get the student discount and get it for 1,260 think it represents pretty good value! (I'm looking myself but not in position to buy today or else I'd nab this

machalla

Folks I just wanted to post a quick note to thank you all for your input and suggestions.

I had seen the G7 suggested as a possibility, it may well work with the discount. This machine needs to be able to do about 4-5 years service as a gaming and developer laptop.

The 17" is nice for the screen estate but the likelihood is it would be using a dual screen setup for development purposes with a docking station so 15" could do the trick also.

Something to consider

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-gimped-the-GeForce-RTX-2060-on-laptops-A-closer-look-at-mobile-RTX-and-desktop-RTX.434817.0.html

machalla

glasso wrote: »

Something to consider

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-gimped-the-GeForce-RTX-2060-on-laptops-A-closer-look-at-mobile-RTX-and-desktop-RTX.434817.0.html

Thanks again Glasso. Thats interesting, from what I had read the performance difference between 2060 and 2070 was not all that significant. To hear that the 1660ti is not significantly slower than the 2060 is a revelation to me though.

I don't think ray tracing or dlss are crucial requirements for this even if it is to to be useful for 5 years hence.

machalla

machalla wrote: »

Thanks again Glasso. Thats interesting, from what I had read the performance difference between 2060 and 2070 was not all that significant. To hear that the 1660ti is not significantly slower than the 2060 is a revelation to me though.

I don't think ray tracing or dlss are crucial requirements for this even if it is to to be useful for 5 years hence.

well I think that the 2060 is about 12-15% more powerful than the 1660ti in desktop configuration but in laptop (mobile) configuration seems like from that article that Nvdiia have crippled the 2060 a bit more and it's only 5% more than the 1660ti in that set-up. so not really worth the extra money.

only a small minority of games out there at the moment with ray-tracing and dlss and you'll still be able to play them without that and still look good.

machalla

What does anyone make of this machine? It comes in around €1,470. The wireless only supports up to AC which is fine for now but with wifi6 starting to appear over the coming years it might be a minor weakness. You can't have everything though.

MSI GL73 9SD-216UK
https://www.box.co.uk/9S7-17C722-216-MSI-GL73-9SD-216UK_2513738.html#DetailTop


Intel Core i7-9750H Hexa Core Processor
17.3" Full HD Screen
Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit
16GB DDR4 2666MHz RAM
256GB PCIe NVMe SSD + 1000GB HDD
Dedicated GeForce GTX 1660Ti 6GB Graphics
USB3 | HDMI | Bluetooth
Backlit Keyboard
2 Year MSI Warranty
9S7-17C722-216

Vikings

machalla wrote: »

What does anyone make of this machine? It comes in around €1,470. The wireless only supports up to AC which is fine for now but with wifi6 starting to appear over the coming years it might be a minor weakness. You can't have everything though.

MSI GL73 9SD-216UK
https://www.box.co.uk/9S7-17C722-216-MSI-GL73-9SD-216UK_2513738.html#DetailTop


Intel Core i7-9750H Hexa Core Processor
17.3" Full HD Screen
Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit
16GB DDR4 2666MHz RAM
256GB PCIe NVMe SSD + 1000GB HDD
Dedicated GeForce GTX 1660Ti 6GB Graphics
USB3 | HDMI | Bluetooth
Backlit Keyboard
2 Year MSI Warranty
9S7-17C722-216

I seem to be eyeing up the same type of laptop as you so I've been doing similar searching. That MSI is £20 dearer from scan so that's the best price I've found for it.

Two other similar options are the HP Omen or a Dell G7.

https://www.box.co.uk/7ED91EAABU-HP-OMEN-17-cb0003na_2614935.html

The HP is slightly more expensive but I believe the 17 is a new model this year.

The Dell is actually cheaper and has the 2060 card over the 1660ti.

https://www.dell.com/en-ie/shop/laptops/dell-g7-17-gaming-laptop/spd/g-series-17-7790-laptop/cng7718

It's 1499 but the LUCKY15 code on there for the next 2 days gives you 15% off so total of 1275.

machalla

Vikings wrote: »

I seem to be eyeing up the same type of laptop as you so I've been doing similar searching. That MSI is £20 dearer from scan so that's the best price I've found for it.

Two other similar options are the HP Omen or a Dell G7.

https://www.box.co.uk/7ED91EAABU-HP-OMEN-17-cb0003na_2614935.html

The HP is slightly more expensive but I believe the 17 is a new model this year.

The Dell is actually cheaper and has the 2060 card over the 1660ti.

https://www.dell.com/en-ie/shop/laptops/dell-g7-17-gaming-laptop/spd/g-series-17-7790-laptop/cng7718

It's 1499 but the LUCKY15 code on there for the next 2 days gives you 15% off so total of 1275.

That's very helpful. That coupon code is a real saving.
I'm a little wary of the Dell though as apparently it gets very hot and it's hard to know of the components are up to scratch. Dell in the past have not been a quality brand in my experience. Still times may have changed,

The MSI looks solid in build overall and what reviews I could find seemed positive. HP ice not got near at all so far.

machalla

machalla wrote: »

That's very helpful. That coupon code is a real saving.
I'm a little wary of the Dell though as apparently it gets very hot and it's hard to know of the components are up to scratch. Dell in the past have not been a quality brand in my experience. Still times may have changed,

The MSI looks solid in build overall and what reviews I could find seemed positive. HP ice not got near at all so far.

I tried the dell coupon code and it will only drop the price to 1360 as it doesn't apply to another existing offer on the laptop which drops it to 1400. So not quite so much of a saving unfortunately.

mike_cork

Lads, i can see a few people posting about box.co.uk.
Whats there support like in the event of an issue e.g. laptop problem 2 years down the line after purchase ?

mike_cork

mike_cork wrote: »

Lads, i can see a few people posting about box.co.uk.
Whats there support like in the event of an issue e.g. laptop problem 2 years down the line after purchase ?

2 years down the line you won't have a warranty anywhere unless you paid for an extended one.

they have been around a long time and owned saveonlaptops which was reliable (renamed to box now)

mike_cork

glasso wrote: »

2 years down the line you won't have a warranty anywhere unless you paid for an extended one.

they have been around a long time and owned saveonlaptops which was reliable (renamed to box now)

Thanks for the response.
Yeah i'd be paying extra for an extended warranty. would pay for a 3 year warranty (as I'd hope to knock 3 years out of whatever i end up buying).

https://www.box.co.uk/extended-warranty

mike_cork

glasso wrote: »

https://www.box.co.uk/extended-warranty

If Brexit goes ahead i wonder will it have an impact on the warranty ?
Would they still honour it etc

machalla

mike_cork wrote: »

If Brexit goes ahead i wonder will it have an impact on the warranty ?
Would they still honour it etc

I imagine any warranty would rest with the manufacturer (Acer, Asus, HP, etc) rather than the seller so assuming they still have a European presence then you may be ok. It might have to go to Germany or somewhere further afield thoughb for repair unless they established local operations.

machalla

machalla wrote: »

I imagine any warranty would rest with the manufacturer (Acer, Asus, HP, etc) rather than the seller so assuming they still have a European presence then you may be ok. It might have to go to Germany or somewhere further afield thoughb for repair unless they established local operations.

I don't know - I'd assume that the warranty is with the seller.

email box and ask about brexit

machalla

Vikings wrote: »

I seem to be eyeing up the same type of laptop as you so I've been doing similar searching. That MSI is £20 dearer from scan so that's the best price I've found for it.

Two other similar options are the HP Omen or a Dell G7.

https://www.box.co.uk/7ED91EAABU-HP-OMEN-17-cb0003na_2614935.html

The HP is slightly more expensive but I believe the 17 is a new model this year.

The Dell is actually cheaper and has the 2060 card over the 1660ti.

https://www.dell.com/en-ie/shop/laptops/dell-g7-17-gaming-laptop/spd/g-series-17-7790-laptop/cng7718

It's 1499 but the LUCKY15 code on there for the next 2 days gives you 15% off so total of 1275.

I noticed that HP Omen 17 is now £1149 on Amazon at the moment, about £200 cheaper than anywhere else. In case anyone else is still looking at them.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07SP2KGJK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

mike_cork

Hi lads,
Would this be a good purchase ?

Dell G5 15
9th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-9750H (12MB Cache, up to 4.5 GHz, 6 cores)

Windows 10 Home 64bit, English, Dutch, French, German, Italian

NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX™ 2060 6GB GDDR6

16GB RAM, 2x8GB, DDR4, 2666MHz

256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive (Boot) + 1TB 5400 rpm 2.5" SATA Hard Drive (Storage)

3 year warranty

Its price is €1,682.27...But i have a 15% off coupon so final price would be €1429.92

mike_cork

mike_cork wrote: »

Hi lads,
Would this be a good purchase ?

Dell G5 15
9th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-9750H (12MB Cache, up to 4.5 GHz, 6 cores)

Windows 10 Home 64bit, English, Dutch, French, German, Italian

NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX™ 2060 6GB GDDR6

16GB RAM, 2x8GB, DDR4, 2666MHz

256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive (Boot) + 1TB 5400 rpm 2.5" SATA Hard Drive (Storage)

3 year warranty

Its price is €1,682.27...But i have a 15% off coupon so final price would be €1429.92

solid enough value overall for the components and 16gb ram

mike_cork

glasso wrote: »

solid enough value overall for the components and 16gb ram

Any recommendations for rival machines that you would think would be better?

Wouldn’t be a massive gamer but as I’m hoping to have the laptop for at least 3 years I’m thinking its best to "futureproof" as much as possible by getting a pretty good spec machine

had a look around and couldn't really find anything to beat it for the price

check box.co.uk

mike_cork

glasso wrote: »

had a look around and couldn't really find anything to beat it for the price

check box.co.uk

Thanks very much for checking glasso. One final question-is the 2060 graphics card a bit overkill since I wouldnt be doing massive amounts of gaming ?

the 1660ti is probably enough and available for cheaper

there is not a lot of performance difference between that card and the 2060 when run in laptops if you can get a good saving then take it.

mike_cork

glasso wrote: »

the 1660ti is probably enough and available for cheaper

there is not a lot of performance difference between that card and the 2060 when run in laptops if you can get a good saving then take it.

Thanks Glasso. Was reading the same online but i couldnt find alot at the same price point with the same spec on other sites.
I pressed the button on the order a few minutes ago so hopefully it turns out to be a good purchase.

machalla

Very similar in spec to the HP Omen 17 that was on offer earlier in the week and similar price. £1,149.97

It also seems to be much lighter.

Hp Pavilion 17 Cd0033na

For Forks Sake

machalla wrote: »

Very similar in spec to the HP Omen 17 that was on offer earlier in the week and similar price. £1,149.97

It also seems to be much lighter.

Hp Pavilion 17 Cd0033na

Omen has an accessible chassis so that you can add more RAM/Storage yourself without any hassle, Omen screen is a lot better as well (144hz fhd)

cherryghost

I've echo'd elsewhere but the HP Omen 144hz screen in 2018 and 2019 models are hands down the best and most responsive with minimal ghosting, and colour accuracy is very good also.

machalla

As it happens we purchased an hp omen 17 at the reduced price on Amazon.

I got a look at it last night. The screen is excellent. The sound is only so so but adequate.

It is heavy but the impressive cooling on it has kept it to very reasonable temperatures without huge noise from the cooling fans. I saw it running xcom 2, I've yet to see it run something more heavyweight.

The keyboard is decent, nothing extraordinary. Trackpad and mouse buttons are very useable.

The only criticism of note is the weight of the power pack and that the power becomes very hot, you certainly wouldn't want to pick it up in your hand for long.

I'd certainly recommend it as a desktop replacement machine from what I've seen of it.

most if not all gaming laptops are on the heavy side and have bigger power bricks (more watts) tbh.

Loafing Oaf

I'm in the market for something similar to the OP and am also looking at the HP Omen 17
This seems to be the best price out there
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/173-hp-omen-an107na-fhd-ips-120hz-g-sync-i7-8750h-8gb-ddr4-256gb-nvme-ssdplus2tb-hdd-8gb-gtx-1070-wi?gclid=CjwKCAjwldHsBRAoEiwAd0Jybdq7dL-nGPqqR6TmorehWmnWJbMk4F8NwTK25GPLmdtWaTlLMwaerBoCXSMQAvD_BwE

Can anyone confirm that scan.co.uk is not scam.co.uk?:P

machalla

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

I'm in the market for something similar to the OP and am also looking at the HP Omen 17
This seems to be the best price out there
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/173-hp-omen-an107na-fhd-ips-120hz-g-sync-i7-8750h-8gb-ddr4-256gb-nvme-ssdplus2tb-hdd-8gb-gtx-1070-wi?gclid=CjwKCAjwldHsBRAoEiwAd0Jybdq7dL-nGPqqR6TmorehWmnWJbMk4F8NwTK25GPLmdtWaTlLMwaerBoCXSMQAvD_BwE

Can anyone confirm that scan.co.uk is not scam.co.uk?:P

Scan are fine, they've been around a long time. That iis the older model omen 17 by the way. Might be better looking at the newer version. Better screen and graphics card even with a 1660ti

machalla

machalla wrote: »

Scan are fine, they've been around a long time. That iis the older model omen 17 by the way. Might be better looking at the newer version. Better screen and graphics card even with a 1660ti

yes

1660ti > 1070

https://www.box.co.uk/7ED91EAABU-HP-OMEN-17-cb0003na_2614935.html

Loafing Oaf

Cheers guys. In my ignorance had been assuming bigger number = better when it comes to graphics cards.

Loafing Oaf

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Cheers guys. In my ignorance had been assuming bigger number = better when it comes to graphics cards.

the nvidia cards are a big confusing


10xx - last gen

20xx current gen but with ray-tracing

16xx current gen without ray-tracing

typically current gen numbering of same model will be of similar power or a little more than last gen 1 higher model number

e.g. 1650 > 1550 ti

1660 ti > 1070 (close but 1660ti more efficient in power usage also)

machalla

glasso wrote: »

the nvidia cards are a big confusing


10xx - last gen

20xx current gen but with ray-tracing

16xx current gen without ray-tracing

typically current gen numbering of same model will be of similar power or a little more than last gen 1 higher model number

e.g. 1650 > 1550 ti

1660 ti > 1070 (close but 1660ti more efficient in power usage also)

Thanks for all your helpful advice Glasso. It proved useful in deciding on the laptop to buy. As you mentioned ready tracing wasn't that useful on a laptop so the 1660ti was a good choice I think for the reduced price.

actually to clarify the nvidia cards numbering the last gens have been split into 2 groups


lower to mid

16xx (current) vs 15xx (older)


higher end

20xx (current) vs 10xx (older)

in laptops the 2060 is only very marginally better (5% or so) than the 1660ti in frames per second performance due to a strange laptop implementation of the card.

on desktop it's maybe 15% better.

Irishcrx

Hi Guys ,

I'm also in the market for a new machine upgrading from my N55 Asus which has served me well over the last 5 years , the choice of laptops now compared to then is astounding! My head has been spinning a little bit... I use my laptop when travelling with work but for gaming as I have a work laptop for the rest so even though none have great battery life the better it has the better for me... I have a budget of around 2k for something good, below is what I need and a list of what I'd be interested in that I want to narrow down.

* External battery access so I can carry a spare and swap out easily
* Sufficent cooling system with proven effectiveness
* General gaming is around Starcraft , Football manager , XCOM , Battlestar Deadlock , CIV series
* Want one that is future proof for a few years and ideally can be upgraded

I've seen a lot of reports of some systems with the new I9 9900 having severe throttle issues in controlling the temp and some high rated I7's actually outperforming them , from the laptops I've looked at the below three systems stand out as the best value.

HP OMEN Intel® Core™ i7-9750H processor NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2060 - 6 GB 15 512 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD 16 GB RAM 1500

PC Specialist Intel® Core™ i9 Eight Core Processor i9-9900K (3.6GHz) 16MB Cache NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2060 - 6.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1 17 240GB ADATA SU630 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 450MB/W) x 2 16GB Corsair 2400MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB) 2250

Acer Predator Helios 300 Intel Core i7-9750H Hexa Core Processor Dedicated GeForce RTX 2060 6GB Graphics 17 256GB M.2 NVMe SSD + 1000GB HDD 16GB DDR4 RAM 1900

Omen best in price but in reviews I've read it's slimmer frame seems to be creating issues with cooling the processors/GPU on full load, anyone any experience? I really like the ACER seems to tick a lot of boxes and PCS has fantastic value but is a bit of a unknown.

Looked briefly at Alienware , can't see the value in what you get vs these systems.

most of the 2060's in laptops have a reduced power 80w chip which reduces performance compared to the 160w version in desktops.

for that reason, not really worth it, unless it has the 160w version, to get a 2060 laptop over a 1660ti laptop.

lisasimpson

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machalla wrote: »

Thanks again Glasso. Thats interesting, from what I had read the performance difference between 2060 and 2070 was not all that significant. To hear that the 1660ti is not significantly slower than the 2060 is a revelation to me though.

I don't think ray tracing or dlss are crucial requirements for this even if it is to to be useful for 5 years hence.

lisasimpson

lisasimpson wrote: »

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re ray-tracing with the nvidia 2060 (in laptops anyways) the frame rates for ray-tracing on are fairly sh1t so if you really want to use it you need to spend more money on a 2070 or 2080.

it won't become fully mainstream for another few years and the games still look good without it....

Irishcrx

After reviewing various models for the past few days I think the Predator Triton is the best all rounder for what I am looking for , good performance and battery life , mobile and light... This is the best price I can find it for at the minute and you get a backpack and mouse from Acer , anyone know where it can be got for cheaper? I've tried Scan , Komplett and Overclockers as well...

https://www.box.co.uk/NH.Q50EK.012-Acer-Predator-Triton-500-PT515-51-77Q8_2559404.html

seems expensive

this is a few hundred grams heavier but has a 2070 card and is £150 cheaper and is a respected line (ROG Strix) from Asus

https://www.box.co.uk/GL504GW-ES012T-ASUS-ROG-Strix-SCAR-GL504GW-ES012T_2411622.html

re battery life, whatever the quoted life, running actual intensive gaming off a battery you are looking at less than 2 hours. gaming laptops need to be plugged in for gaming.

Irishcrx

Cheers ,

Yep I've faced that on my current laptop which is ASUS (N55) and I have liked the brand in the five years I've had it...I travel a lot with work so the battery life is more for when I can't find a socket to plug into to just browse, watch videos etc...If it could handle two hours of light gaming that'd be great also...

Irishcrx

Irishcrx wrote: »

Cheers ,

Yep I've faced that on my current laptop which is ASUS (N55) and I have liked the brand in the five years I've had it...I travel a lot with work so the battery life is more for when I can't find a socket to plug into to just browse, watch videos etc...If it could handle two hours of light gaming that'd be great also...

if you have the nvidia optimus feature where you can turn off the graphics card for when you don't need it, for browsing etc then that can help

what you could consider in your case is buying an ultrabook with thunderbolt 3 and then use an external graphics card amplifier setup

e.g.

https://www.gamingscan.com/best-external-graphics-card/#Gigabyte