Public charging

s8n

Folks - I’m taking delivery of a M3 before the end of the month.

Home charger sorted.

I’m in the dark about public ESB chargers though, how do I access them. Do I need to register (if yes, then where) and is there a charge for them ?

JPA

Is boards just Google now?


https://www.esb.ie/our-businesses/ecars/register-for-charging

Phileas Frog

s8n wrote: »

Folks - I’m taking delivery of a M3 before the end of the month.

To clarify, you're most definitely not taking delivery of an M3 if you're looking to charge it.

Mickeroo

You can apply for a card for the ESB chargers on their site. You can also start the chargers by ringing the phone number on them.

I find the most handy option is the Bosch Charge My EV app though.

jusmeig

s8n wrote: »

Folks - I’m taking delivery of a M3 before the end of the month.

Home charger sorted.

I’m in the dark about public ESB chargers though, how do I access them. Do I need to register (if yes, then where) and is there a charge for them ?

Did they actually give u a date yet? U will be a while getting charger grant

charlieIRL

jusmeig wrote: »

Did they actually give u a date yet? U will be a while getting charger grant

I applied for my charger grant on a Thursday and had the grant letter the following Monday!

Gumbo

Phileas Frog wrote: »

To clarify, you're most definitely not taking delivery of an M3 if you're looking to charge it.

Your in the EV forum. M3 = Tesla Model 3. Get with the lingo lad.

s8n

Thanks for all the help. Excellent as always

Yes, M3 is model 3 (this is the EV forum)

eddhorse

Yes of course you need to register but I think you need the number plate.

n97 mini

Email a copy of your VLC to ESB ecars and they will send you out a card. Worth remembering though there are more shows in town now, eg Ionity. Work out which are going to be useful to you.

charlieIRL

I got my ESB card and I don’t have my reg number yet. I just put in 192XX000. Don’t have my VLC cert yet either.

niallo32

Have registered for the ESB card but haven't received it yet.

Can you use a public ESB charger without the physical card?

JPA

niallo32 wrote: »

Have registered for the ESB card but haven't received it yet.

Can you use a public ESB charger without the physical card?

Yes, call them to start and stop session

_dof_

Or download the Bosch Charge My EV app for Android, don't know about IOS.
That lets you start and stop the charge from your phone. Then you get an automated invoice for 0 euro in an email later.

JohnC.

_dof_ wrote: »

Or download the Bosch Charge My EV app for Android, don't know about IOS.

It is on iOS also.

niallo32

Thanks both, very helpful.

s8n

n97 mini wrote: »

Email a copy of your VLC to ESB ecars and they will send you out a card. Worth remembering though there are more shows in town now, eg Ionity. Work out which are going to be useful to you.

What are ionity ?

denismc

_dof_ wrote: »

Or download the Bosch Charge My EV app for Android, don't know about IOS.
That lets you start and stop the charge from your phone. Then you get an automated invoice for 0 euro in an email later.

Does this work with the Ionity chargers?

eddhorse

s8n wrote: »

What are ionity ?

https://ionity.eu/

There are more than ESB chargers and Tesla chargers for instance. Lots of companies can make money from these chargers.

_dof_

denismc wrote: »

Does this work with the Ionity chargers?

Not at the moment anyway, the Ionity, EasyGo, Tesla or Circle K chargers don't show up, it's only ESB ecars.

niallo32

Went to charge the new BMW 530e in Athlone today. The charging cable that came with the car is IEC type2 -> 3 pin

The charge point is IEC type2.

Am i missing something or do I need to buy an adapter?

Black_Knight

niallo32 wrote: »

Went to charge the new BMW 530e in Athlone today. The charging cable that came with the car is IEC type2 -> 3 pin

The charge point is IEC type2.

Am i missing something or do I need to buy an adapter?

You have a "granny cable", used for charging from any 3 pin socket. You need a Type2 female to type2 male to charge on the "slow" public chargers.

It's hardly worth your while though. It'd take an hour to charge on the slow public chargers. An hour to save maybe €1 in electricity.

niallo32

Black_Knight wrote: »

You have a "granny cable", used for charging from any 3 pin socket. You need a Type2 female to type2 male to charge on the "slow" public chargers.

It's hardly worth your while though. It'd take an hour to charge on the slow public chargers. An hour to save maybe €1 in electricity.

Thanks, do other charging points (Circle K e.g) provide the cable?

Black_Knight

niallo32 wrote: »

Thanks, do other charging points (Circle K e.g) provide the cable?

You're only provided the cable at fast chargers. Behind KFC in Athlone there's a slow and fast charger.

Please be courteous though. Plug in Electrics have the privilege of using their internal combustion engine when they run out of electricity. Full battery cars do not. Plug in Electric cars also charge much much slower than battery only cars on the fast chargers. Think of it like pulling up to the pumps, and all the pumps are occupied, but no one is getting fuel, it's that kinda feeling for BEV drivers.

unkel

PHEV should really only be charged at home. Or at work. Not at any public chargers.

Black_Knight

unkel wrote: »

PHEV should really only be charged at home. Or at work. Not at any public chargers.

An impossible dream while public charging is still free

unkel

Indeed. I'm never really bothered about all the charging etiquette discussions. I stopped using the public network early last year. And I haven't driven my car beyond its range since. But I will now if there are Ionity chargers on my route. Or indeed if the charging for charging will dramatically free up the ESB public charging network.

kanuseeme

Charge where ever you want, it might be 1 euro of electricity but its many more times that in petrol, its your car, any one telling you to charge some where else should be buying your petrol for you.

kanuseeme

niallo32 wrote: »

Went to charge the new BMW 530e in Athlone today. The charging cable that came with the car is IEC type2 -> 3 pin

The charge point is IEC type2.

Am i missing something or do I need to buy an adapter?

The answer you should have gotten was, you need a type 2 to type 2 cable to use a public charger.

something like this,

https://www.adverts.ie/cables/car-charging-cable/18790541

park up plug in .

kanuseeme

Black_Knight wrote: »

You're only provided the cable at fast chargers. Behind KFC in Athlone there's a slow and fast charger.

Please be courteous though. Plug in Electrics have the privilege of using their internal combustion engine when they run out of electricity. Full battery cars do not. Plug in Electric cars also charge much much slower than battery only cars on the fast chargers. Think of it like pulling up to the pumps, and all the pumps are occupied, but no one is getting fuel, it's that kinda feeling for BEV drivers.

Rubbish,

The bmw 530e cannot use a rapid D.C charger, it can use the AC 43 kw,

To explain a bit more, the AC 43kw can be used while a BEV is using the rapid D.C chademo or the CSS.

only one BEV can use the rapid DC chargers at a time on most the rapids in this country, put your pump analogy here

unkel

Not quite rubbish. A BEV like a Renault Zoe can only use AC rapid charging. If a PHEV was hogging it at 3.3kW, the Zoe would be stuck.

As I said many times before, I can't really be bothered talking about charging etiquette. It ceased to exist anyway in this country sometime early in 2018 when lots of ignorant folks bought the new model Leaf and plugged it into their local rapid chargers for hours on end to save themselves €1.50

I wouldn't mind if the entire ESB charging network was just shut down tomorrow. Or preferably, if hefty charging for charging was brought in and the network was maintained properly. The current status is a shambles. Like a third world country.

kanuseeme

The poster wanted to charge his new car, instead he got free lessons in respect BEV's and told where to charge, whom in your words are ignorant folks, and will hog a rapid for hours to save €1.50,

Black_Knight

kanuseeme wrote: »

The poster wanted to charge his new car, instead he got free lessons in respect BEV's and told where to charge, whom in your words are ignorant folks, and will hog a rapid for hours to save €1.50,

The ignorant ones, yes. Hopefully the OP has been enlightened to the frivolousness of fast charging a PHEV. By all means they, like you, can use fast chargers on their PHEVs, hopefully at least now he's not ignorant to the potential impact it has on BEVs. If PHEVs, fully aware of the above, choose to charge to 100% (or whatever their max is) on a fast charger while BEVs wait, they're asses... entitled to do it, but still asses.

niallo32

Thanks for all the comments folks, am getting the home charger setup this week so don't plan on using public chargers much. Yesterday was as much to figure out how to use them etc as anything.