Electric scooters

amandstu

I am starting to see these around the roads and in town.

Seems to me they might need a little care if you are sharing the road with them.

Has anyone any experience around them and maybe tips for keeping everyone safe?

spurious

Lethal on those tiny wheels.
Nobody ever seems to look behind or indicate on them (perhaps this is a balance thing because of the tiny wheels?), they swoop in and out of the path of cars. IMO, it's crazy that in their present form they are not taken off the roads.

biko

For you as a learner just give them a wide berth and expect the rider to fall off at any time.

amandstu

biko wrote: »

For you as a learner just give them a wide berth and expect the rider to fall off at any time.

Good advice.We are all learning here.

John_Rambo

spurious wrote: »

Lethal on those tiny wheels.
Nobody ever seems to look behind or indicate on them (perhaps this is a balance thing because of the tiny wheels?), they swoop in and out of the path of cars. IMO, it's crazy that in their present form they are not taken off the roads.

They’re a vulnerable road user. Take your time, exercise caution and give them lots of space as you would with a cyclist, pedestrian or motorcyclist.

As motorists, we're the ones in the lethal vehicles.

biko

amandstu wrote: »

Good advice.We are all learning here.

You intended to post in Learning to Drive forum yeah?

amandstu

biko wrote: »

You intended to post in Learning to Drive forum yeah?

No ,that was a mistake.**I was trying to understand your post (now I do:) )

I was just trying to find the general driving forum and mistakenly thought this one was the nearest.

** I am not a learner driver.

spurious

John_Rambo wrote: »

They’re a vulnerable road user. Take your time, exercise caution and give them lots of space as you would with a cyclist, pedestrian or motorcyclist.

As motorists, we're the ones in the lethal vehicles.

Lethal vehicle that does not wobble or fall over on the road when I try to check behind or indicate my intention to change lane etc..

You need to give them much more room than a cyclist because they weave all over the place without warning.

I suppose as usual in Ireland it will take someone to be killed before someone looks at these small wheeled scooters and sees how inherently unstable and unsafe they are.

John_Rambo

spurious wrote: »

Lethal vehicle that does not wobble or fall over on the road when I try to check behind or indicate my intention to change lane etc...

I'm not sure how many deaths these lethal vehicles have caused. I haven't seen any of them wobble or "fall over on the road". Maybe you have and have seen the carnage and death. If you have statistical evidence of them being more lethal than cars I'd really appreciate you proving it and posting it up on this thread. I've been on a few and found them able to handle quiet well. I've witnessed them in a good few cities all over Europe and haven't have any experience of them "fall over on the road". I have been the unfortunate witness to a horrible death of a car crash victim.

spurious wrote: »

You need to give them much more room than a cyclist because they weave all over the place without warning.

Good advice, give them lots of room. However, I don't see them "weave all over the place without warning" Any more so than cyclists, motorbikes or cars.

spurious wrote: »

I suppose as usual in Ireland it will take someone to be killed before someone looks at these small wheeled scooters and sees how inherently unstable and unsafe they are.

We have multiple deaths in Ireland from cars every week. Do you suppose we should look at how inherently dangerous and unsafe they are? We've being trying for decades, but it's not working out very well.

Allowing single passenger light E-powered & human powered transport in cities and urban areas is a positive forward thinking environmental friendly mode of short distance A to B transport. The big danger is cars, and we, as motorists have to back off and allow pedestrians, cyclists & boarders to carry on and continue their business without bullying or legislating them off the roads.

Needs Must

Are they still illegal for road use?

spurious

John_Rambo wrote: »

Allowing single passenger light E-powered & human powered transport in cities and urban areas is a positive forward thinking environmental friendly mode of short distance A to B transport. The big danger is cars, and we, as motorists have to back off and allow pedestrians, cyclists & boarders to carry on and continue their business without bullying or legislating them off the roads.

Absolutely agree with you, but don't put the wobbly small wheeled scooters in the same lane as the cars.

They may be tremendous for pootering around lower trafficked areas such as the East Point business park where most of the ones in my area are heading, but the dodgems on (for example) the East Wall and North Strand Roads (and on and off adjacent footpaths when it suits them) are ridiculous.

I have seen a couple of larger wheeled ones which appear much more controllable and weave less, maybe they are the better option.

Skatedude

Needs Must wrote: »

Are they still illegal for road use?

Not legal to use on public roads atm.

McHardcore

My mate lamped himself on one before when he didnt see a drain cover. The little wheels are lethal.