Footwells soaked

cr-07

Hi,
I have a late 2014 2.0 CDTI Design Nav Ecoflex model. As of recent, I have been getting a lot of water underneath the drivers footwell and rear passenger (drivers side) footwell.
This is to the point where the carpet is sopping wet. There is also some dampness and water droplets in the boot on the drivers side.

I have removed the Rubber bungs underneath the door sills (as suggested on another forum), but no water came out.
I have checked all coolant levels and they seem ok. I do not have a sunroof and I do not think that the water is coming from any of the door seals.

Any suggestions before I bring it to a garage? I'm completely stumped!

corks finest

Possible heater matrix trouble- check your water

Greyfoot

cr-07 wrote: »

Hi,
I have a late 2014 2.0 CDTI Design Nav Ecoflex model. As of recent, I have been getting a lot of water underneath the drivers footwell and rear passenger (drivers side) footwell.
This is to the point where the carpet is sopping wet. There is also some dampness and water droplets in the boot on the drivers side.

I have removed the Rubber bungs underneath the door sills (as suggested on another forum), but no water came out.
I have checked all coolant levels and they seem ok. I do not have a sunroof and I do not think that the water is coming from any of the door seals.

Any suggestions before I bring it to a garage? I'm completely stumped!

Does it smells funny and/or sweet? If so then it is coolant indeed if not check clogged drain holes under the wiper covers or near the windscreen. Are you using aircon at all?

Toyotafanboi

What car is it? Does it have a sunroof?

smuggler.ie

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

What car is it? Does it have a sunroof?

Seriously?

scudzilla

Driving a Megane and had exact same issue, to the point my wife said to me that when she was turning a corner she could hear sloshing, thought she was going nuts. The 2 little secret floor compartments were full of water.

The well at bottom of window below wipers was clogged up, had it all cleaned out and not happened since

smuggler.ie

Read this, could be your problem
https://insignia-drivers.uk/threads/20764-Rear-Drivers-Side-Light-Leaking-Water-Into-the-Boot

Toyotafanboi

smuggler.ie wrote: »

Seriously?

Yeah, it'd really help, I dont think anybodys mentioned it, although loads of people seem to be able to throw guesswork at what's wrong.

2014 2.0 CDTI Design Nav Ecoflex

We have a year an engine and a trim level. Is it a Corsa, Astra, Insignia, Adam, Antara??

Just going with the sunroof question as it's a fairly logical one to ask when talking about water ingress into the cabin and a detail that the OP may neglect to mention and a lot of people dont ask. Could be as simple as a blocked or dislodged drain, water will settle in the lowest point.

Specially if the footwells are sopping it's unlikely to be coolant from the heater matrix as youd have lost so much to waterlog the carpet that there'd be overheating/ warning lights/ odours at this stage and water wont be travelling against gravity through a grommet in the floor pan.

cr-07

Thanks for the responses. I have noticed a few leaves and dirt around the bottom of the windscreen near the grill, I will try and clear out all the debris and gunk tonight.

I have been noticing a smell of socks coming from the air con when I turn it on, I put this down as a moldy pollen filter though and I would change it at a later date, could this cause a problem related to my current issue?

I lifted up the carpet and sound proofing yesterday, to which I found about 3-4mm of water underneath. It was quite hard to remove the water without removing the carpet altogether so I just punched a hole through the bottom of the footwell (less than the diameter of a pen), which I will fill with sealant when the problem is resolved.

Anyone have a solution to remove water and dry out the carpets? Other than pulling them out and hanging them on the line, which will be a pain in the a**.

smuggler.ie

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Yeah, it'd really help, I dont think anybodys mentioned it, although loads of people seem to be able to throw guesswork at what's wrong.



We have a year an engine and a trim level. Is it a Corsa, Astra, Insignia, Adam, Antara??

Just going with the sunroof question as it's a fairly logical one to ask when talking about water ingress into the cabin and a detail that the OP may neglect to mention and a lot of people dont ask. Could be as simple as a blocked or dislodged drain, water will settle in the lowest point.

Specially if the footwells are sopping it's unlikely to be coolant from the heater matrix as youd have lost so much to waterlog the carpet that there'd be overheating/ warning lights/ odours at this stage and water wont be travelling against gravity through a grommet in the floor pan.

All fine just sunroof and no loss of coolant was mentioned in #1

smuggler.ie

cr-07 wrote: »

Anyone have a solution to remove water and dry out the carpets? Other than pulling them out and hanging them on the line, which will be a pain in the a**.

Wet vacuum to remove excess water, then dehumidifier but it takes as long it takes for water to vapor out, providing leak is sorted. Link i posted before mention some solution for smell - see if avail.

Toyotafanboi

smuggler.ie wrote: »

All fine just sunroof and no loss of coolant was mentioned in #1

Well we still dont even know what car we're dealing with.

Wet footwells from sunroof leaks are popular. Or if not the sunroof, definitely a body leak like windscreen seal or plenum chamber etc.

Honest to jaysis, I'd put the house on it. If the footwells are soaked to touch, and there's 3-4mm of liquid under the carpets, the car would have calved long ago if it lost that much coolant. It's just the application of a common sense approach. At the very least the OP would have notice the liquid was bright green/blue/ pink.

smuggler.ie

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Well we still dont even know what car we're dealing with.

Wet footwells from sunroof leaks are popular. Or if not the sunroof, definitely a body leak like windscreen seal or plenum chamber etc.

Honest to jaysis, I'd put the house on it. If the footwells are soaked to touch, and there's 3-4mm of liquid under the carpets, the car would have calved long ago if it lost that much coolant. It's just the application of a common sense approach. At the very least the OP would have notice the liquid was bright green/blue/ pink.

True, and we won't know for how long it was ongoing to get this much water and even start to stink.

SmartinMartin

scudzilla wrote: »

Driving a Megane and had exact same issue, to the point my wife said to me that when she was turning a corner she could hear sloshing, thought she was going nuts. The 2 little secret floor compartments were full of water.

The well at bottom of window below wipers was clogged up, had it all cleaned out and not happened since

This. If the channels at the bottom of the front windscreen are blocked, water will ingress behind the glovebox area in a lot of cars. Happened me on a focus and an a4. Keeping the channels clear was the fix.

cr-07

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Well we still dont even know what car we're dealing with.

Wet footwells from sunroof leaks are popular. Or if not the sunroof, definitely a body leak like windscreen seal or plenum chamber etc.

Honest to jaysis, I'd put the house on it. If the footwells are soaked to touch, and there's 3-4mm of liquid under the carpets, the car would have calved long ago if it lost that much coolant. It's just the application of a common sense approach. At the very least the OP would have notice the liquid was bright green/blue/ pink.

Sorry, my apologies, it is a Vauxhall Insignia (saloon bodytype), don't know how I didn't mention that in my original post. It does not have a sunroof. I'm 100% certain it is not coolant, as it looks and smells(lack of) like water.

Greyfoot

Check or have someone check the AC drain hole in case is blocked you`ll have water in the cabin if it is located under the center console.
As for drying it out, pick up as much as you can, hoover it up then spread 2-3 kilos of salt on the rear and passenger rubber mats for overnight, should dry up pretty well.

smuggler.ie

Greyfoot wrote: »

Check or have someone check the AC drain hole in case is blocked you`ll have water in the cabin if it is located under the center console.
As for drying it out, pick up as much as you can, hoover it up then spread 2-3 kilos of salt on the rear and passenger rubber mats for overnight, should dry up pretty well.

God bless if you spill that salt.
Salt + moisture on metal = extra fast corrosion.
If willing to use food to absorb water, better use rice

Greyfoot

smuggler.ie wrote: »

God bless if you spill that salt.
Salt + moisture on metal = extra fast corrosion.
If willing to use food to absorb water, better use rice

I wrote on the rubber mats and it`s not like spilled salt and water will attack painted metal overnight is it?

smuggler.ie

Greyfoot wrote: »

I wrote on the rubber mats and it`s not like spilled salt and water will attack painted metal overnight is it?

And i wrote "if you spill"

Sh1t happens, and it better be rice than salt. If it gets onto carpet it will dissolve over night and then what...
Car under-body is treated as well, have you seen cars in EU countries that have severe winters and use salt solution treatment on roads a lot



Dehumidifier still better job than any food

Greyfoot

smuggler.ie wrote: »

And i wrote "if you spill"

Sh1t happens, and it better be rice than salt. If it gets onto carpet it will dissolve over night and then what...
Car under-body is treated as well, have you seen cars in EU countries that have severe winters and use salt solution treatment on roads a lot



Dehumidifier still better job than any food

I am from an EU country where winter temps are severe with lots of snow, currently living in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea with constant humidity over 95% during winter.



I agree that dehumidifier does a better job than any food.


So OP leave the salt or breadcrumbs, rice or what have you in plastic tupperware on the floor.

smuggler.ie

Greyfoot wrote: »

So OP leave the salt or breadcrumbs, rice or what have you in plastic tupperware on the floor.

Great, last thing we need to take care off - mice infesting car going to the feeder

Greyfoot

smuggler.ie wrote: »

Great, last thing we need to take care off - mice infesting car going to the feeder

Fine, toss a cat in there for good measure too.

Lekrub

Had similar and it was the heater matrix. Nearly guarantee its that. Unless there's a serious blockage of leaves etc stopping water draining.

corks finest

Lekrub wrote:

Had similar and it was the heater matrix. Nearly guarantee its that. Unless there's a serious blockage of leaves etc stopping water draining.

Yep I mentioned that earlier as I'd 2 Renault's and happened to both- nightmare to replace

BigGeorge

Had this happen on an opel. Only leaked when the car was parked up a hill & never when facing down. Turned out to be sand / grit / dust blocking the drain holes under the windscreen wipers. Cleaned them out & did not reoccur

Tea drinker

I liberally spray that firewall area with washing up liquid, OK it dries off but small amounts will come out every shower, and help keep the drains clean

corks finest

Tea drinker wrote:

I liberally spray that firewall area with washing up liquid, OK it dries off but small amounts will come out every shower, and help keep the drains clean

That sounds really good advice