toilet paper that won't block drain

s7ryf3925pivug

The drain from our toilet is prone to blocking between the toilet and the first access point.

Emptying the cistern while flushing poop improved things, but it is blocking now (after seven months instead of two).

The issue appears to be a slight incline, so not easily fixed.

Is there toilet paper that will dissolve easily and not exacerbate this, preferably that is it horrible to use?

Have a biocycle waste system, though I doubt that's relevant when the problem is in the piping before it reaches it.

cnocbui

TP sold in Iceland is pretty weak and insubstantial.

BuboBubo

Go for basic, 2ply stuff. Don't get that quilted 4 ply stuff.

Purple Mountain

2 ply only.
Get the cheapest one in Lidl.
Forget your soft, quilted luxury brands.

Sleeper12

A drain is supposed to have a slight incline. Could there be kids (or adults) in the house using tons of TP at a time? Even if you use the flimsyist single ply it will block the drain if you use wads of it.

Purple Mountain

Never ever put baby wipes down there, even once.
Same for sanitary wear.
And even hair from a hairbrush, if you tip it in the toilet, builds up over time.

Sleeper12

Purple Mountain wrote:

Never ever put baby wipes down there, even once. Same for sanitary wear. And even hair from a hairbrush, if you tip it in the toilet, builds up over time.

Even the bum wipes that claim to be flushable. They aren't flushable

the_pen_turner

Is this a new issue. You could have misplaced rubber seal

s7ryf3925pivug

not a new issue but only in the house a year. Plumbers have checked it and said it was just an incline, no fix advised beyond emptying cistern.

nothing but human waste and loo paper down the toilet.

wads probably the issue. also delaying flushes until morning to avoid waking baby wont be helping.

KK4SAM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

A drain is supposed to have a slight incline. Could there be kids (or adults) in the house using tons of TP at a time? Even if you use the flimsyist single ply it will block the drain if you use wads of it.

All waste line should have a fall not an incline.
Have you considered this

Sleeper12

KK4SAM wrote: »

All waste line should have a fall not an incline.

Have you considered this


Sorry my mistake. I meant to say that the fall should only be slight. It doesn't need a big fall. Obviously you are right it shouldn't have an incline. I'm mixing my terms up

s7ryf3925pivug

KK4SAM wrote: »

All waste line should have a fall not an incline.
Have you considered this

Interesting - first time I've seen something like that. Worth looking into, thanks.

s7ryf3925pivug

the_pen_turner wrote: »

Is this a new issue. You could have misplaced rubber seal

How would I know that?

The first time I cleared it I pulled out large enough chunks of wood. The size of a big crow. Now I'm wondering if that was an invasive root. It's not near a big tree though. Definitely thought it was processed timber at the time. Guess I wouldn't be able to pull a root that thick out with a drain rod so probably just something someone dropped down the drain weirdly.

ashes2014

We have to use the thinnest toilet paper too-tried decent stuff and it just blocks everything up.

Water John

The slope should be 1:60, so a drop of one foot in sixty. If its too steep, water flows away too quick and leaves solids.
We have a house rule, that if you do a No 2 you flush twice. This is because the pipe along the gable end has too much of a slope.

the_pen_turner

Hadleigh Strong Stake wrote: »

How would I know that?

The first time I cleared it I pulled out large enough chunks of wood. The size of a big crow. Now I'm wondering if that was an invasive root. It's not near a big tree though. Definitely thought it was processed timber at the time. Guess I wouldn't be able to pull a root that thick out with a drain rod so probably just something someone dropped down the drain weirdly.

jesus thats some log to leave in the toilet.


i doubt you would be able to move anything that grew in there

the only real way to see if you have a rubber seal (or anything else) causing a problem is to put a camera down or take everything apart

i would expect that you either have a rubber catching or a disformed pipe or a fall issue caused by a dip or bad fall

Billyo66

Fyi, the absolute go to loo unblocker, even in the most critical of cases, is to pour a full bottle of cheap washing liquid down the loo.

Leave it for an hour.

Then pour a kettle of very hot, but not boiling water down the loo.

Leave for another hour. Then fill a large watering can with water and start flushing and pouring the water steadily as the water drains away.

The noise was like a mini explosion when the blockage gave way!😲

This method unblocked a shocking blockage after visitors and saved us a hell of a plumber bill.

s7ryf3925pivug

Billyo66 wrote: »

Fyi, the absolute go to loo unblocker, even in the most critical of cases, is to pour a full bottle of cheap washing liquid down the loo.

Leave it for an hour.

Then pour a kettle of very hot, but not boiling water down the loo.

Leave for another hour. Then fill a large watering can with water and start flushing and pouring the water steadily as the water drains away.

The noise was like a mini explosion when the blockage gave way!😲

This method unblocked a shocking blockage after visitors and saved us a hell of a plumber bill.

You can usually unblock a drain yourself with drain rods. It's not hard, just gross.

I have a biocycle wastewater system. This means the poop gets digested by bacteria. If we dumped a full bottle of cheap washing liquid down the drain it would kill a lot of the bacteria that digests our poop and our back garden would start to smell. [Even after getting someone to empty it, my experience is that it takes months to get the bacteria to recover.]

s7ryf3925pivug

the_pen_turner wrote: »

jesus thats some log to leave in the toilet.


i doubt you would be able to move anything that grew in there

the only real way to see if you have a rubber seal (or anything else) causing a problem is to put a camera down or take everything apart

i would expect that you either have a rubber catching or a disformed pipe or a fall issue caused by a dip or bad fall

I guess that would be easier to fix than an incline?

I think it is an incline because my recollection is that when I clear it I can see a little water sitting in the drain. If the slope was right that would drain away. Could be remembering wrongly though will double check.

Otherwise I guess I should get it checked right away. Getting a patio laid soon so if the pipe needs to be dug up it would be best to do that first.

The pipes were checked with a camera before and all they reported the septic pump was broken... They didn't see the chunk of wood though so I guess they mustn't have checked that part of the drain.

cnocbui

If this is a problem that didn't occur previously, but is happening now, my guess would be plant roots.

s7ryf3925pivug

Closest plants are shrubs about 20m away. At least double that to the nearest tree which is a not giant Scots pine.

You can see the incline in the drain hole. The water is a few mm deeper at the end closest to the house. The original pipes are blocked off at that point and it is redirected to the pretreatment part of the biocycle system. They just did a bad job of that and left an incline. Hopefully a hump rather than a consistent raise.

I cleared it. Not much that and all new looking so something specific blocked it in the last few days. The other times there was several times as much to remove. Very very much a good idea to clear it as soon as the water in the toilet starts to raise up on flushing then, not to leave it until things aren't going down at all.

Looked into the macerator. Apparently they are not recommended for biocycle systems because they increase the organic load substantially. Not sure I get how chopping it up increases the load but that's what I read.

SlowBlowin

Yes there is a paper specifically designed for bio systems.

When we first got it I filled 2 glasses with well water and added the new "super paper" and the existing stuff we were using. If 15 minutes the new stuff had virtually dissolved to a fine pulp, many times "thinner" that the old stuff.

Since we changed we have had no blockages (we used to get 1 a month).

You buy it mail order and they delivered it to our local shop in Kerry. If you are interested I will PM you the details.

s7ryf3925pivug

sure, why not- thanks