multi herd dairy farmers

kerry cow

where i live , in SE kerry the hills are green with trees and windmills , only for a pvc joinery , the roads would be silent .
30 , 40 dairy cows is the norm if you are milking , 100 cows are a rarity , the rest are in beef and the out look there is bleak too .
all we can do is read about the rest , expanding their herds .
now the new phenomena is having 2 and 3 herds !.
does it make money having a second or a third milking farm ? Or is it really guys who have 150 cows on a farm and who now has 3 farms so as to satisfy himself to milk 450 cow , for example .
is there a element of keeping up with the Jones 's .
I hear of this practice in the north kerry and also country wide .
of course people are entitled to do what they wish but is it really worth all the GO.

wrangler

kerry cow wrote: »

where i live , in SE kerry the hills are green with trees and windmills , only for a pvc joinery , the roads would be silent .
30 , 40 dairy cows is the norm if you are milking , 100 cows are a rarity , the rest are in beef and the out look there is bleak too .
all we can do is read about the rest , expanding their herds .
now the new phenomena is having 2 and 3 herds !.
does it make money having a second or a third milking farm ? Or is it really guys who have 150 cows on a farm and who now has 3 farms so as to satisfy himself to milk 450 cow , for example .
is there a element of keeping up with the Jones 's .
I hear of this practice in the north kerry and also country wide .
of course people are entitled to do what they wish but is it really worth all the GO.

The world is made up of different sorts of people Some like micheal OLeary and denis Obrien who like to be moving onward.
A country is relying on people like that to provide wealth and employment.
That's why banks have kinda let good entrepeneurs of teh hook a bit
So I suppose it is worth all the go.

oxjkqg

I suppose it depends on a number of factors
labour would be number 1 - to get a second unit going around here it would be a struggle to get good labour
the second would be the individual, some people just arnt content with sitting still or what they have and want to expand or push there inititave. they may also have the people management skills, the backing, stages of investment, alot of factors but just down to the individual really

kerry cow

it must take huge funding to get up and running in someone elses farm .
there's rumour that there's a rotary , new slatted shed etc and new herd of cows going up near tralee on a rented farm .
third unit by all accounts .
second one done by same guy last year in limerick .

awaywithyou

kerry cow wrote: »

it must take huge funding to get up and running in someone elses farm .
there's rumour that there's a rotary , new slatted shed etc and new herd of cows going up near tralee on a rented farm .
third unit by all accounts .
second one done by same guy last year in limerick .

yeah heard that.... think his wife who would be well known in farming circles through her media work is the brains behind the operation..... the owner of the land is supposed to b providing the funding (hes a very very wealthy man).. think the people ur referring to will be just looking after it for him....

kerry cow

awaywithyou wrote:

yeah heard that.... think his wife who would be well known in farming circles through her media work is the brains behind the operation..... the owner of the land is supposed to b providing the funding (hes a very very wealthy man).. think the people ur referring to will be just looking after it for him....

monopoly money .

easy spend someones money tho .

I'd rather milk on my farm and try and expand next door anyway rather than hitting the road .
land next door is worth alot more and entice the neighbour with more loot instead .

unless I am going to knock forest on 3 sides , unlikely .

farmertipp

kerry cow wrote: »

where i live , in SE kerry the hills are green with trees and windmills , only for a pvc joinery , the roads would be silent .
30 , 40 dairy cows is the norm if you are milking , 100 cows are a rarity , the rest are in beef and the out look there is bleak too .
all we can do is read about the rest , expanding their herds .
now the new phenomena is having 2 and 3 herds !.
does it make money having a second or a third milking farm ? Or is it really guys who have 150 cows on a farm and who now has 3 farms so as to satisfy himself to milk 450 cow , for example .
is there a element of keeping up with the Jones 's .
I hear of this practice in the north kerry and also country wide .
of course people are entitled to do what they wish but is it really worth all the GO.

how about the guys who sold Kerry shares at 35 euro to double their numbers for 2015 versus guy who didn't and still has them at 108 euro and a lot less work?

K.G.

All grand till the s##t hits the fan

Buford T. Justice XIX

awaywithyou wrote: »

yeah heard that.... think his wife who would be well known in farming circles through her media work is the brains behind the operation..... the owner of the land is supposed to b providing the funding (hes a very very wealthy man).. think the people ur referring to will be just looking after it for him....

M.K.?

awaywithyou

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

M.K.?

yeah.... the rumours bout the project gone a bit wild.. talk of upto a thousand cows being milked there!! cant bate a good rumour

mf240

K.G. wrote: »

All grand till the s##t hits the fan

Lads often forget its an awful lot easier to lose the run of yourself in good times than bad.

mf240

awaywithyou wrote: »

yeah.... the rumours bout the project gone a bit wild.. talk of upto a thousand cows being milked there!! cant bate a good rumour

I usually add about 10 percent to those kind of stories when I tell them on. So we're talking 1100 plus replacements now:D

kerry cow

often wonder are there many 500 plus grazing cow herds around .
we all know the cork guys , a few in meath /louth and big herd in silgo .
rockwell have 600 or more .

einn32

kerry cow wrote: »

often wonder are there many 500 plus grazing cow herds around .
we all know the cork guys , a few in meath /louth and big herd in silgo .
rockwell have 600 or more .

I've visited businesses operating multiple herds and was impressed by how slick they were. These people have business heads on. They base the acquisitions on sound principles. That's not to say it won't all go to pot because milk is a tumultuous business but there is risk in every business venture. You need a good team on the ground and everyone pulling together. Managing people is a critical skill!

wrangler

Rumours have it that the local dairy magnate here is planning his third 500 cow herd and he hadn't a cow in 2015

farmertipp

wrangler wrote: »

Rumours have it that the local dairy magnate here is planning his third 500 cow herd and he hadn't a cow in 2015

Who is he supplying?

kerry cow

labour is elephant in the room

wrangler

farmertipp wrote: »

Who is he supplying?

I don't know even though the nearest one is only 4mls from here,
Great opportunties for some suckler farmers, contract rearing and milking/calving for him, he's supposed to be very fair to the disgust of existing dairyfarmers

farmertipp

What area is he in? that would nearly tell you. a lot of soul searching going on atm about cost to coop s of more expansion

jaymla627

farmertipp wrote: »

What area is he in? that would nearly tell you. a lot of soul searching going on atm about cost to coop s of more expansion

Cap may/June supply limits at 14% of rolling yearly monthly production with 20 cent fines per liter over this and you’d sort the issue out over night and actually have a situation where plants are running smoothly nearly year round with a steady flow of milk, the grass to milk 90% calved in 6 weeks boys, will spit the dummy out but would cool them down from trying to take over half the parish with second units and rotaries

wrangler

farmertipp wrote: »

What area is he in? that would nearly tell you. a lot of soul searching going on atm about cost to coop s of more expansion

,

Lakeland is the only lorries I see around, but any hungry creamery would send a lorry to that size of an operation,
His first two farms are only a couple of miles apart

farmertipp

fair dues to him.it takes a good manager with good people skills to grow like that

wrangler

farmertipp wrote: »

fair dues to him.it takes a good manager with good people skills to grow like that

Plus thousands of acres of tillage plus contracting,

farmertipp

he has a good way of putting a big enoug
block of land together so.
some land rental bill I'd say!

wrangler

farmertipp wrote: »

he has a good way of putting a big enoug
block of land together so.
some land rental bill I'd say!

He thrives on it and a real nice person as well.
He'd own a lot of the land he bought a lot over the last few years