Buying a used Zoe

aFlabbyPanda

Hiya,

I'm currently looking at this car purely to save costs while buying a house. I can charge the car at work and have a daily 25k round trip (12.5 each way) plus trips to the gym/shops, etc. Given that its the older model with the 130k range is it worth considering? Or will I be driven made with the limited range? I'm not really close to any other charges except for work.

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/renault/zoe/used-2016-161-renault-zoe-expression-kerry-fpa-201908261537405

Thanks

KCross

Just make sure that there is no monthly battery rental on top of that price.

Do you have the ability to put in a home charger? That would make it an easy decision as it would easily do your commute and you would have no range issues at the weekend when you are not at work.

If you cant charge at home its a bit trickier.

aFlabbyPanda

I'm currently in the process of moving back in with my folks, selling my current house and waiting for the new to be built. I'll be at home for up to a year so it might make sense to get the grant and use it there but I'd prefer to hold off and get it at my own place.

I'll check about the battery lease. Thanks

KCross

TopSideControl wrote: »

I'm currently in the process of moving back in with my folks, selling my current house and waiting for the new to be built. I'll be at home for up to a year so it might make sense to get the grant and use it there but I'd prefer to hold off and get it at my own place.

You could charge using an outdoor 3 pin socket. That would suffice, though not ideal.

You could also use the grant. Its tied to the ESB meter so you could technically get the grant on your parents house and then when you buy another EV later you could get the grant again on your new house (if the grant still exists).
i.e. the grant isnt tied to you.... its tied to the MPRN of the house.


Do you do any long journey's? i.e. do you regularly go beyond, say, 70km's from your house where you would then need to stop to recharge to get home?

aFlabbyPanda

No and my wife has a new Octavia so if there are any long journeys I've got that. The worst case scenario would be having a double trip to the office on the same day (but once there I can charge again, etc).

Mickeroo

Ah if you're a two car household then the EV is a no brainer really, just be aware of the battery lease as was said above and run a mile if it has one.

To put it into perspective the battery lease costs roughly 4 times as much money a month as it takes to run my EV and I do over twice the mileage you mention in the OP.

KCross

TopSideControl wrote: »

No and my wife has a new Octavia so if there are any long journeys I've got that. The worst case scenario would be having a double trip to the office on the same day (but once there I can charge again, etc).

Well its a no brainer so. For your small commute and considering your motivation is to save money buy the cheapest EV you can buy.

Zoe or Leaf will be the cheapest as they are out the longest.

aFlabbyPanda

So the battery is on a lease, I worked out that I'm doing about 12,500 klm at a conservative estimate. I'm waiting on the PCP details from the dealer to see if its financial a better deal than keeping my current petrol car.

KCross

TopSideControl wrote: »

So the battery is on a lease...

Dont say anymore... walk away from that car and find a different one.

The battery lease is a disaster and you will struggle to sell it on later.

unkel

I really wouldn't recommend a leased battery EV. It will cost you a fortune in total cost of ownership compared to a battery owned EV. And you will have great difficulty selling it on.

Edit - beaten to it

ELM327

forget the leased ones
I considered one for a while too. the cheap cost of entry is enticiing but theres no point spending 70 quid a month on an unsellable car ad infinitum

aFlabbyPanda

Thanks to everyone for the advice, I've asked the dealer if I can buy out the lease or include in the PCP, etc, and he claims its an option alright. He's putting some prices together so I might bother you all again once more.

adunis

To the best of my knowledge lease still cannot be bought out,nissan did allow it way back along but I don't think Renault ever did.

Markcheese

Yeah, that could be the dealer keeping you on the hook with a vague " yeah, you can buy the lease out in future"

Old diesel

KCross wrote: »

Just make sure that there is no monthly battery rental on top of that price.

Do you have the ability to put in a home charger? That would make it an easy decision as it would easily do your commute and you would have no range issues at the weekend when you are not at work.

If you cant charge at home its a bit trickier.

It's too cheap not to be a battery lease imo.

Odd they haven't alluded to it in the ad though

aFlabbyPanda

So its not to be, while the car itself would have cost the same as what I pay for the my fabia now, the battery rental would be 79 per month, the same as what I roughly spend on fuel so there is no saving.

I'll keep looking for now but the advice here has been really helpful. THanks all.

oh he claimed I could buy the battery for between 4500 and 5000 euro but they've never done it with anyone yet.

adunis

Just a thought s brand new Zoë starts at 25k
5 years O% hp
Ie 100euro p/w
Without putting in a cent or trading in the fabia
And don't forget near as dsmmit zero fuel cost.

Mike9832

adunis wrote: »

Just a thought s brand new Zoë starts at 25k
5 years O% hp
Ie 100euro p/w
Without putting in a cent or trading in the fabia
And don't forget near as dsmmit zero fuel cost.

That's what I would go with

It will surely be worth €8,000 after 5 years

That's down to €65 per week now, less all the other savings compared to ICE

Zoe isn't the most reliable EV either, would be wary of a used one out of warranty

Plenty of horror stories on speakev with them, most were grand as battery lease and in warranty

unkel

Mike9832 wrote: »

That's what I would go with

It will surely be worth €8,000 after 5 years

That would be my worst case scenario value. But I would sell when there is at least a few months manufacturers warranty left to give peace of mind to the new owner.

aFlabbyPanda

If I just in the market for a new car I would look at the zoe new of course. But since my fabia is only costing me 161€pm (pcp 0% over 3 years, I had a good trade in to start with) and fuel is 80-100€pm even a new one doesn't make sense when I just want to cut monthly outgoings.

Mike9832

TopSideControl wrote: »

If I just in the market for a new car I would look at the zoe new of course. But since my fabia is only costing me 161€pm (pcp 0% over 3 years, I had a good trade in to start with) and fuel is 80-100€pm even a new one doesn't make sense when I just want to cut monthly outgoings.

True

In your case, no sense alright

For majority of non crazy commuters like yourself it's the same

adunis

What's the fabia worth ?
25-10=15
Or 250 p/m
Less 80 pm fuel
170 pm

Hey presto brand new electric car......
Ps better warranty than the Skoda
Better residual value
I know all to well having swapped my 181 Octavia +4k for the Ioniq after touring the whole country

charlieIRL

Renault we’re doing a deal of 0% finance and €0 deposit on a Zoe. Not a PCP deal either.

adunis

See above 🀪ðŸ‘

charlieIRL

adunis wrote: »

See above 🀪ðŸ‘

I was mentioning the zero deposit as well! 😉