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At last some good news!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭older by the day




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭Waternotsoda


    Good news but is the planning granted

    Could the actually refuse especially in the current climate?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭older by the day


    Could the actually refuse especially in the current climate?

    Of course they can refuse, did you live in Ireland long?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭Waternotsoda


    Of course they can refuse, did you live in Ireland long?

    OK as a country we have our moments, athenry apple comes to mind. But surely there will be alot of political pressure to get this done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭older by the day


    OK as a country we have our moments, athenry apple comes to mind. But surely there will be alot of political pressure to get this done.

    Hopefully it would be great for the Midlands and hopefully a bit of competition for the other beef plants. But they probably won't be welcoming them. I would not be celebrating too much till I see blocks laying.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 973 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    Wouldn’t that be a great boost. Larry and the boys will prob pay some lunatic to object


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    sonnybill wrote: »
    Wouldn’t that be a great boost. Larry and the boys will prob pay some lunatic to object

    I thought someone did object a few weeks ago on on a number of conditions. One of them being that it was going against our climate change plans, more beef bad for the environment etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    I thought someone did object a few weeks ago on on a number of conditions. One of them being that it was going against our climate change plans, more beef bad for the environment etc.

    But how can it be more beef when the cattle numbers are decreasing?
    If it means more cattle are killed & processed in Ireland instead of live export, I'm all in favour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,719 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    For my own reasons I’ve read lots on China and it’s issues including food security and their SOP would not be come into the market and pay top dollar. It would be far more likely they will open a series of their own feed lots to supply this and supply their own labour to run all the facilities too. Supplying their own feed stuffs bought on the open markets and shipped in.

    In the very short term this may help but I wouldn’t hold hope it’s any sort of solution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,334 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    _Brian wrote: »
    For my own reasons I’ve read lots on China and it’s issues including food security and their SOP would not be come into the market and pay top dollar. It would be far more likely they will open a series of their own feed lots to supply this and supply their own labour to run all the facilities too. Supplying their own feed stuffs bought on the open markets and shipped in.

    In the very short term this may help but I wouldn’t hold hope it’s any sort of solution.

    I said the same about the milk, china would just buy the land and the creameries


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    wrangler wrote: »
    I said the same about the milk, china would just buy the land and the creameries

    Cheaper to just pay a slightly higher rate then whatever Larry is giving, why would they want to tie up money and resources in cattle/land/sheds etc when they can easily source the product at the cost of production our below from suppliers, same goes for milk production, mega dairies like fonterra have in China are actually a disaster because you have to pay the full economic cost of production, a lot cheaper to source from farmer suppliers who will do it for again the cost of production our below and no headaches our huge amounts of money tied up in farms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭148multi


    But how can it be more beef when the cattle numbers are decreasing?
    If it means more cattle are killed & processed in Ireland instead of live export, I'm all in favour.

    http://www.midlandtribune.ie/home/2019/08/21/news/calls-made-to-veto-meat-processing-plant-plans-5793/

    Great bit about wind turbines and circulation of air pollution and bad odours, the bold Gwen is on some vegan websites too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    148multi wrote: »
    http://www.midlandtribune.ie/home/2019/08/21/news/calls-made-to-veto-meat-processing-plant-plans-5793/

    Great bit about wind turbines and circulation of air pollution and bad odours, the bold Gwen is on some vegan websites too.

    Ah yes, the long standing Offaly families of Kampff & Wordingham :pac:
    The submission, made by Des Kampff and Gwen Wordingham

    Perhaps it's just me but I find the comments by those shockingly hypocritical. The cattle are already in the country, providing an option for slaughter which may be nearer than wherever they used to head isn't going to change much about transport or feed production. Bringing up staff commutes as a viable reason to stop the plant is laughable considering how many commute from midlands to Dublin every day.
    Not to mention how much cr@p we import from China each year ourselves. Tonnes upon tonnes of generic useless plastic tat from alibaba.com or similar.

    "The combined emissions this development would create through the use of transport, livestock and feed production, processing, staff commutes, and air miles involved in the export of beef to China, are vast and unacceptable given current pressure to reduce emissions and create a carbon-neutral economy."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Ah yes, the long standing Offaly families of Kampff & Wordingham :pac:



    Perhaps it's just me but I find the comments by those shockingly hypocritical. The cattle are already in the country, providing an option for slaughter which may be nearer than wherever they used to head isn't going to change much about transport or feed production. Bringing up staff commutes as a viable reason to stop the plant is laughable considering how many commute from midlands to Dublin every day.
    Not to mention how much cr@p we import from China each year ourselves. Tonnes upon tonnes of generic useless plastic tat from alibaba.com or similar.

    "The combined emissions this development would create through the use of transport, livestock and feed production, processing, staff commutes, and air miles involved in the export of beef to China, are vast and unacceptable given current pressure to reduce emissions and create a carbon-neutral economy."

    Ah the plant food advocates are at it again. This time screaming they want a carbon neutral economy but with no wind power generation to boot as it is ugly!

    If this lot of shisters and their ilk had their way us peasants will be back planting spuds with our bare hands while our German and english visitors smile at us from their comfortable traditional thatched holiday cottages.

    Can't wait tbh....


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