Petrol, auto, low tax, estate, power - 5k?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Brother is looking for a car, I can't find anything suitable on DD at all, what am I missing?

Requirements are:

2008+ (Cheap tax)
Auto.
Estate.
Petrol.
Must be able to comfortably pull a trailer.

He's adamant it has to be a petrol, if he considered a diesel there's the world of cars that fit the criteria out there.

Donedeal just throws up all the Toyota/Nissan jap 1.5 cars, C class Mercs with high tax, BMW 318i's, KIA Rio's etc.

Does such a car even exist?

grogi

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Brother is looking for a car, I can't find anything suitable on DD at all, what am I missing?

Requirements are:

2008+ (Cheap tax)
Auto.
Estate.
Petrol.
Must be able to comfortably pull a trailer.

He's adamant it has to be a petrol, if he considered a diesel there's the world of cars that fit the criteria out there.

Donedeal just throws up all the Toyota/Nissan jap 1.5 cars, C class Mercs with high tax, BMW 318i's, KIA Rio's etc.

Does such a car even exist?

No. Automatic petrols of decent size and tax are much newer affairs than the budget allows.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

grogi wrote: »

No. Automatic petrols of decent size and tax are much newer affairs than the budget allows.

I was trying to say that to him. He's absolutely dead set on getting a petrol again, every time he got a diesel he had EGR, injector, turbo problems... to be fair he's not wrong.

ongarite

He is after a unicorn.
A Donedeal search of that criteria with budget of 6K shows 11 hits and most are cars that aren't suitable.

What towing capacity is he after?

colm_mcm

Civic hybrid? Even pre 2008 it’s only 1.4 tax


Ooh. Estate.
What does he want an estate for?
What’s the budget

grogi

colm_mcm wrote: »

Civic hybrid? Even pre 2008 it’s only 1.4 tax


Ooh. Estate.
What does he want an estate for?
What’s the budget

And a trailer?!

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

It’s just what I was thinking. Such a car doesn’t exist!

GustavoFring

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-320i-m-sport-auto/22131740

I know the 318i is 390 tax, don't know if there's a big difference. It's going to be a bit more with vrt and the reliability might be questionable and it looks like a Jap import.

bazz26

What he is looking for just doesn't exist in Ireland, he will either have to up his budget or drop one of those conditions.

mgbgt1978

Another issue is that a lot of the more recent Petrol Autos are really DSG's (manual Twin-clutch 'boxes pretending to be Autos). Most are not over-fond of Towing much more than 500kg.....only anecdotal, rather than direct experience.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

GustavoFring wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-320i-m-sport-auto/22131740

I know the 318i is 390 tax, don't know if there's a big difference. It's going to be a bit more with vrt and the reliability might be questionable and it looks like a Jap import.

He likes that but you've to put 1000 into it straight away for a chain...just to be safe.

GustavoFring

Hunky Monster wrote: »

He likes that but you've to put 1000 into it straight away for a chain...just to be safe.

You get someone to check it over and keep the grand if it doesn't need it;)

farna_boy

If you could find a BMW 530i (E60) it would probably tick all the boxes (if you think €750 is cheap for tax).

You could probably import one easily enough but finding one in Ireland will be hard.

Example from the UK for £5400



If they were willing to go a little older there is a 2004 Subaru Legacy GT (280bhp) for sale in Clare at the moment for €3850.

pah

farna_boy wrote: »

If you could find a BMW 530i (E60) it would probably tick all the boxes (if you think €750 is cheap for tax).

You could probably import one easily enough but finding one in Ireland will be hard.

Example from the UK for £5400



If they were willing to go a little older there is a 2004 Subaru Legacy GT (280bhp) for sale in Clare at the moment for €3850.

Subaru is nice but it's a manual

colm_mcm

And 04 and not cheap to tax...

farna_boy

colm_mcm wrote: »

And 04 and not cheap to tax...

I read the OP as the only reason they were looking at 2008+ was to avail of the cheaper tax.

Either way, I don't think you will find anything that has 200bhp+ for less than €700 tax under the new or old tax regimes unless you at least triple the budget.

For example, the 530i would be €1400 under the old tax band and conversely the Legacy would be at least €1200 under the new regime.

Regardless, compromises will be necessary to come close to the requirements of the OP.

grogi

I think something that is closest to the requirements would be 2008 accord estate auto 2.0...

How many of them around? Probably very few...

Ferris

E91 320i touring?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-320i-m-sport-auto/22131740

Looks nice but overpriced IMO considering it needs VRT but I think these were 560 tax PA? You'd have to fit a towbar also.

CrankyHaus

Are many petrols of that era, and of a size fit to move an estate and tow, cheaper tax on the Co2 system than they were on cc?

grogi

Ferris wrote: »

E91 320i touring?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-320i-m-sport-auto/22131740

Looks nice but overpriced IMO considering it needs VRT but I think these were 560 tax PA? You'd have to fit a towbar also.

Jap import. Add VRT, not sure about VAT.

Ferris

grogi wrote: »

Jap import. Add VRT, not sure about VAT.

Its landed so I presume the duty is paid. The ad says VRT is due.

colm_mcm

What about a 1.4 TSI Passat on cc tax?

Carpentry

Subaru Impreza 2.0rx 5DR Auto, but 710e to tax it, all in all great cars.


https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/subaru-impreza-2-0rx-5dr-auto/22475157

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Thanks for all the suggestions guys. So far none of the suggestions are quite it. Not a reflection on you guys. He’s just looking for a unicorn. Currently trying to convince him to go diesel.

For reference he’s in a 2008 mondeo 1.6 petrol, so the likes of a 2006 Impreza are very wide of the mark.

Carpentry

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Thanks for all the suggestions guys. So far none of the suggestions are quite it. Not a reflection on you guys. He’s just looking for a unicorn. Currently trying to convince him to go diesel.

For reference he’s in a 2008 mondeo 1.6 petrol, so the likes of a 2006 Impreza are very wide of the mark.

Its non turbo 2 litre boxer, bullet proof engine.

bazz26

Chancery - suspiciously cheap for the year and the advert says the NCT is out since last February but checking the nct website says it's not due until Feb 2020. Not far off the top end budget:



https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/10-mercedes-benz-c-class-estate-automatic/22269910

Darn, just saw the 1200 annual motor tax.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Carpentry wrote: »

Its non turbo 2 litre boxer, bullet proof engine.

710 tax and going from 2008 to 2006...

Shefwedfan

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Brother is looking for a car, I can't find anything suitable on DD at all, what am I missing?

Requirements are:

2008+ (Cheap tax)
Auto.
Estate.
Petrol.
Must be able to comfortably pull a trailer.

He's adamant it has to be a petrol, if he considered a diesel there's the world of cars that fit the criteria out there.

Donedeal just throws up all the Toyota/Nissan jap 1.5 cars, C class Mercs with high tax, BMW 318i's, KIA Rio's etc.

Does such a car even exist?

What exactly fits in the “cheap tax” bracket ?