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Bench Grinder?

  • 21-08-2019 2:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭


    https://www.google.com/search?q=bench+grinder&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-d&source=lnms&tbm=shop&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjypsGvmJTkAhUhpnEKHTu_B4YQ_AUIESgB&biw=1536&bih=752


    :eek: Holy Sh!t! Where does one even begin?! Incredibly; I see ye can even pay more for a hand cranked, single wheel one than many electric models?! Wow!

    Guys, I just want to sharpen my hatchet. I use it to cut my Dogs meat up with. That's It. Once in a blue moon, extremely light use.

    Should be simple, huh? Until ye stumble on That mind bending array!

    I've also seen reports like; " Wobbles about so much ..... "

    Anyone using a cheaper, more basic one which they'd recommend, please? And, yes, I will be looking to bolt it down to a solid surface :)

    Thanks.


    (Any of you lads looking to kick off with more comedy gold and direct insults, like the DeWalt show? Knock yeselves out, kids! Water off a ducks back I'm afraid ;))
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,190 ✭✭✭cletus


    I've a bench grinder I got in Lidl or Aldi years ago, €25 or so. Works fine, only quibble with it is if you lean heavy on it, you can stall the motor, so definitely for lighter work. I've been contemplating buying some polishing wheels and soap and throwing them on, but don't know if it had the power for it.

    Of the bench grinders you put up, it looks similar to the Macalister, Pacini or Nelson. For small work like you're talking about, any one of them would serve I'd imagine.

    If it's only going to sharpen your axe every 6 months, maybe a sharpening stone might be an option. Otherwise keep a bucket of water beside you so you don't ruin the temper


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭Stigura


    cletus wrote: »
    Otherwise keep a bucket of water beside you so you don't ruin the temper


    Christ! Is that a possibility?! :eek: I'd only envisaged giving it a lick.

    Ye know; I chop up lamb ribs off a log stump. I don't want to make youtube films of me shaving my arm hairs with it.

    I have a carborundum stone. Used it last week, to sharpen the hatchet. It was 'okay'. Bit ..... 'uncomfortable'; Holding the hatchet on the window sill and using the long stone. That's why I thought about a bench jobby.

    No Liddl /Aldi / Argos around me. I'd be buying on line. But, yeah, now ye mention it? For a few seconds use, every month or so? Maybe I could just plump for what ever catches my eye?

    Thanks :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,190 ✭✭✭cletus


    Depends on how dull the cutting edge gets, and how hot you get it. I'm sure somebody will be along shortly to give exact times and temps.

    You can definitely ruin the temper through heat though, happens very quickly with things like chisels, if you're not keeping them cool. Maybe the hatchet head, having more mass, won't heat up as quick, but water is cheap.

    Just to be clear, I'm not actually advocating chisel sharpening on a bench grinder


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Wow! Thanks! That's Damned educational. I'll make absolutely sure then just to let it kiss the wheel. Then dunk it.

    Be bloody ironic; Ruining the tool I'm trying to keep good ~ by trying to keep it good! :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    It doesn't get great reviews on Amazon Record Power RSBG8 Bench Grinder 8-inch but its the one I have and I find it really go. The 8 inch wheel gives you a flatter bevel than the 6 inch and the white stone is good on my lathe gouges.

    The grinder has plenty of power which is what is lacking in a lot of cheap 6 inch grinders.

    Edit> I also have the wet and dry SIP grinder that comes up in the OP's link and I found it next to useless, might be OK if I build a tool guide for it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭cheif kaiser


    Don't use my grinder to sharpen my hatchet anymore, it's too aggressive.

    I now use a sanding disc on an angle grinder and you could shave with it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    Don't use my grinder to sharpen my hatchet anymore, it's too aggressive.

    I now use a sanding disc on an angle grinder and you could shave with it!

    You can sharpen with a sanding disk but you can't really put a good bevel on a tool. On an axe I use both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭Stigura


    my3cents wrote: »
    Edit> I also have the wet and dry SIP grinder that comes up in the OP's link and I found it next to useless, might be OK if I build a tool guide for it.


    Boom! Even I had registered the fact that Those things are all over ebay, on that link! My god, they Must be Utterly useless! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭Stigura


    my3cents wrote: »
    You can sharpen with a sanding disk but you can't really put a good bevel on a tool. On an axe I use both.


    Sanding Disc? What, as in drill attachment :confused: Interesting. I hadn't thought about that.

    But, now I think about it? I've bought a sort of holder thing, for my big angle grinder ~ makes it into a sort of chop saw thing. I wonder; Would it be safe to put the hatchet to the side of that blade?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    Don't use my grinder to sharpen my hatchet anymore, it's too aggressive.

    I now use a sanding disc on an angle grinder and you could shave with it!

    Yep, that's what I've done. Using a 120g flap disc is the way to go.

    4147G_P

    A quick pass on each side at the right angle and you're done. No real heat created.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Aha! And, one of those, clearly, Will go on my grinder, and be safe! :) Whole lot cheaper than any bench job too. And saving me precious bench space!


    Thanks, gentlemen! This is what I come here for! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    As an alternative to the flap disk plan sanding disks work out cheaper https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dyna-Living-Sanding-Grinding-Backing-Grinder/dp/B07NJFZ49Z/

    But its horses for courses I use both if I can get the flap sanders cheap enough.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    Stigura wrote: »
    Aha! And, one of those, clearly, Will go on my grinder, and be safe! :) Whole lot cheaper than any bench job too. And saving me precious bench space!


    Thanks, gentlemen! This is what I come here for! ;)

    That disc shown is 115mm (4.5") which is the most common small grinder used. They will always be a better size of grinder due to a higher wattage and may help exorcise your grinder demons.:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭Stigura


    It's just getting better! :cool: 3C's link side lined me to Drill versions? How much easier to pop a disc into my drill ~ on its pillar ~ and give the hatchet a nicely controlled rub off of that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    Stigura wrote: »
    It's just getting better! :cool: 3C's link side lined me to Drill versions? How much easier to pop a disc into my drill ~ on its pillar ~ and give the hatchet a nicely controlled rub off of that?

    The drill versions aren't as useful. Its really all in the design of the tool and how you hold it. An angle grinder presents the sanding disk in a better way to the work piece and you have more control over it single handed.

    Say with an axe you can hold the axe in one hand and easily put an edge on it with an angle grinder held in the other, not so easy with a drill.

    Also an angle grinder is designed to have a wide disk in it where as a drill is designed for a much narrower drill and doesn't have bearings that will take as much lateral work as an angle grinder.

    As an occasional use item then sanding disks in a drill are OK but for a lot of work I wouldn't wreck the drill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭Stigura


    my3cents wrote: »
    An angle grinder is designed to have a wide disk in it where as a drill is designed for a much narrower drill and doesn't have bearings that will take as much lateral work as an angle grinder.

    As an occasional use item then sanding disks in a drill are OK but for a lot of work I wouldn't wreck the drill.


    Bugger! Foiled once again! :D

    But, then, as I've already indicated; This would be an extremely now and then, blue moon sort of process. I don't Need my chopper arm shaving sharp.

    I just get fed up when it gets rounded to the point of Beating the meat apart. Then, I'd use the hand stone to bring it back to where I'd just want to polish it anyway.

    In all honesty? I Don't like the idea of having to mess about, changing the grinder blade ~ not in this stand thing I have it in. Nor do I much relish the idea of wrecking my hard gotten Wolf drill.

    Cheap bench grinder, after all :confused:

    My brain hurts. I'm off to drink beer and watch " Mindhunter "! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,975 ✭✭✭jimf


    buy a new fecking hatchet problem solved


    no go and enjoy ur beer


    and don't let your next post be what will happen when I need to edge that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭Stigura


    :D Sorry, lads. But, anyone else getting This feeling, about this whole thread?


    :P :P :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,975 ✭✭✭jimf


    Stigura wrote: »
    :D Sorry, lads. But, anyone else getting This feeling, about this whole thread?


    :P :P :P

    brilliant :D:D:D


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